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Leak confirms GrapheneOS & Motorola partnership for non-Pixel hardware (piunikaweb.com)

submitted 2 days ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/android

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[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Hmmm this would have sounded interesting if it didn't require releasing new phones. I don't think Motorola is going to release their next phone within a $200-$300 price range. As it stands, this is marginally better than yet another "ponzi your VS funding on the privacy community" scheme.

What would be useful, if they now have a partnership going, would be to convince Motorola to release the relock keys / firmware fixes for the bootloaders of some models that are no longer in production but are affordable and useful in the secondhand market. In particular, models that see good support from eg.: Lineage. Much easier to start a road towards better privacy and freer systems if it's feasible on hardware you already have, after all.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago

FUCK YEAH! LETS GOOO!

My moto g85 doesn't have any custom roms yet. I just tried on Lineage OS old 8.1.0 rom for my moto Z and now I desperately want to do the same on my current phone. Lineage is what I hoped for but now Graphene? FUCK YEAH!

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Moto g15 (2025) has a headphone jack. I don't know why their phones aren't more popular.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Popular with me, except you can't flash Lineage usually. But for the price they are great.

[–] jmf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

So hyped about this! Any Motorola phones that have removable batteries?

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Honestly this is the most interesting thing in the world of mobile for me since I initially heard about GrapheneOS looking to branch out to another OEM as an option.

Assuming it is in fact a Motorola phone, it would have to be a big piece of shit or unbelievably expensive for what it is before I wouldn't be very tempted by it.

If it was literally a Moto G Power 2025/2026 with GrapheneOS out of the box for $300-$800 I would probably be on board. Supporting something not Google Play or Apple bound is important enough to me that I will pay some level of a premium price for it to support the mission behind it, like I do with System76.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Shareholders are involved. This will be ruined. If you want me off apple, you need to oof get a mainline Linux phone. Until then, it’s all lies and misdirection.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

If they've got a model with a stylus then I'm sold.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 3 points 16 hours ago

Hell yes! Best smartphone I have had is my current Motorola, and it was surprisingly cheap too. Would love to put Graphene on it.

[–] clawfennik123@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly thought they'd partner up with fairphone since both companies share a similar view in longevity for the end user. Hope Motorola does the same

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS devs have been very clear about Fairphone not caring the slightest about security. They are the last OEM in the world they'd choose.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Can we get a grapheneOS lite for fairphone? I care about sideloading apps and removing gapps, not about state actors

[–] ___@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 16 hours ago

In the absence of GrapheneOS, you could just flash LineageOS without GApps, right?

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Fairphone has a partnership with Murena to ship a variant of the Gen 6 with e/OS/, don't they?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

As an iPhone user from the 3G days, this is legitimately interesting to me. I love the form factor of the modern Razr flip-phones, and having access to a privacy-focused OS like Graphene might just tip me over the edge.

Anyone with first-hand experience, how’s Graphene OS with banking apps?

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 minutes ago

Use your bank's web portal. If your bank doesn't let you use a web portal, switch fucking banks, because that means they don't care about you.

Bank apps are filled with all kinds of tracking spyware.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

My bank's app won't run on my Pixel 8 Pro with GrapheneOS. Most apps run fine. It's pretty much just the bank app and eBay that refuse to run.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

My bank has a website. Nothing needs to be an app. Fuck apps with a rake.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh damn, why doesn’t eBay work? It’s not a deal-breaker, but it is an app I use with some regularity.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It annoyed me at first but it really doesn't matter because the eBay website works fine. It's just some companies choosing to use Google's API to check OS integrity. It's supposed to be a security check to make sure core components haven't been hacked, but of course Google makes their API returns a "no" if your version of Android doesn't let them run all their spyware.

[–] berrodeguarana@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It runs fine on my Pixel 7a, I have an account with 2 Brazilian banks and they all work well.

Some apps just don't work though, but they are far and between, an example is Brazil's gov.br, which is a website that is used for ID confirmation on everything that pertains to the government (tax revenue, your own business details,etc.). But then an old phone does that job for me at home.

Speaking of Brazil, it is worth mentioning that Google Pixels are not officially sold here. The ones I did obtain I bought on a "Brazilian eBay" and there is no e-SIM support for it nor any warranty services. I had to do the battery replacement myself despite knowing that Google was offering to fix faulty Pixel 7a's on NA/India/Europe/etc. I am only bringing this up because, coincidentally, 50% of Motorola's smartphone sales are on LATAM. It's a pretty smart move they are making if you ask me, they are aware they could explore this huge market it seems.

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[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't had any trouble with banking apps. One gives me a warning but allows me to continue. Google Wallet doesn't work for payments but that is just fine with me.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is that the equivalent of Apple Pay? That’s pretty ubiquitous here in Australia.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah same data harvesting in the name of convenience

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[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Truth be told I was hoping for Sony because I really like their high end phones from a hard ware point of view.

This better be flagship level specs.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

If they continue to support Pixel phones that covers the flagship end pretty well. Extending to cheaper devices might be more worthwhile to get more people using GrapheneOS.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

lenovo doesnt strike me as a privacy lover and avid kernel updater.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Motorola is a major supplier of communication equipment for the IDF and produces bomb fuses used in IDF's bombs. It also donated money to Project 2025.

I don't know, I expect them to call it the (We're clear on) OPSEC 1

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, i expected lemmy to be more informed about it but kinda surprising how many people don't know about it.

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[–] pigup@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I've used pixels but before then I used to use Motorola. I always like them and they had the best gestures like the twist shake to turn on the flashlight and the tip shake to turn on the camera.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Motorola is sadly still owned by google. I still wish we had the Fairphone x Graphene combo tbh

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Wikipedia says Google sold Motorola Mobility to Lenovo in 2014. The article also mentions that Motorola is owned by Lenovo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Mobility

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 1 points 10 hours ago

I own a Razr, can confirm the Lenovo bootup screen.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 day ago (17 children)

This is especially good news since Motorola makes some of the few phones with a headphone jack. I just hope that whatever phone they make isn't some nearly 7" behemoth like their current line.

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