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[–] artyom@piefed.social 140 points 1 month ago (10 children)

That's good news. I hope it's a budget device with a plastic case, SD card, IR emitter, notification LED, and headphone jack.

[–] RacerX@lemmy.zip 84 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And a user replaceable battery!

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And a projector!

Cry-laughing in Tank 4 Pro

[–] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’d rather have it be a bit more mid to upper range, I want a nice processor and decent cameras

[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I don't have any use for a "nice processor". I have a basic one and I don't have any problems with it.

As for cameras, I think it's pretty clear at this point that it's all about the software. The Pixel was winning blind smartphone camera tests with >10 y/o sensors.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The sensor size also plays a part, the pro has a pretty large sensor for a phone.

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[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

GOS already confirmed it's shipping with a flagship snapdragon SOC so it won't be a budget device. Maybe a future model though.

I think most of those other features are a long shot as well. The GOS team hasn't really specified any preferences for non-security related features and I doubt Motorola would suddenly change their hardware design/direction.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Dude I miss notification LEDs so much. And there is no proper "do not turn on my screen" permission in Android so some app stubbornly wake my screen.

Also would add Display Output over USB to that list.

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[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 88 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

This site is a (possibly AI) content mill. The sources are all circular.

~~It probably isn't Motorola.~~

Edited, see comment for clarifications...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053243

GrapheneOS was contacted by one of the largest Android OEMs in June 2025 and we're actively working with them. They're going to be announcing our partnership in March 2026 and the phones meeting our requirements with official GrapheneOS support are scheduled for 2027.

Xiaomi, Huawei, Honor, and Vivo are all larger OEMs than Motorola.

[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 35 points 1 month ago

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116148741815778719

We never ruled out working with Motorola, Samsung, Nothing, OnePlus, etc. We said none of their current devices meet our requirements which remains the case for all of them. Only future devices from our OEM partner can be supported and it's going to take time to meet all of the update and security feature requirements. It's planned for 2027 but we aren't sure when in 2027 the devices will be launched. There's a lot of work to get done on updates, MTE, etc. before then.

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago

That sucks because Motorola actually is great at hardware

[–] blackjam_alex@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Those aren't the real logos either.

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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 month ago (7 children)

This is especially good news since Motorola makes some of the few phones with a headphone jack. I just hope that whatever phone they make isn't some nearly 7" behemoth like their current line.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago (9 children)

At this point you HAVE to make it a 7" behemoth to get sales, but a lower-volume model with a smaller screen would be a great addition to the lineup. But I can't imagine too many people buy them because Apple stopped making the Minis and they don't usually stop making things that make them money. I actually loved my 13 mini. If this Motorola-GrapheneOS partnership ends up spawning a phone of that size (I do think a lot of privacy enthusiasts may also be smaller phone enthusiasts), I may finally go back to Android.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Xperia 5 still sells. Mine is a bit over 5".

Edit: ok, sells not that good. Why? Mine often gets jealous glances in public transport. Fits nicely in hand and pocket.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Xperia is massively overpriced, full of bloatware, trash software, 2 years of software updates, and they're absolutely massive. And not just massive but like, insanely tall. Hard to believe they're still around while LG has called it quits.

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[–] outbloodyrageous@mander.xyz 39 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Damn, that's surprising. Motorola has never been known for a strong update policy, and having a good update schedule is one of the key requirements for GOS. I hope they are addressing this issue.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 29 points 1 month ago

I mean it seems like a no-brainer for OEMs. You can just turn over all your software development to a 3rd party, for free.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 month ago
[–] clawfennik123@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Honestly thought they'd partner up with fairphone since both companies share a similar view in longevity for the end user. Hope Motorola does the same

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

GrapheneOS devs have been very clear about Fairphone not caring the slightest about security. They are the last OEM in the world they'd choose.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Is that thumbnail ai generated?
The logos look weird.

[–] plateee@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You didn't know that GrapheneOS is diversifying by also deciding to start manufacturing footballs (soccer for our American friends)?

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[–] guillem@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The GrapheneOS logo looks like drawn by someone who remembers what does it look like but not what it represents.

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[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 21 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Fucking finally. The only reason I couldn't get my hands on GrapheneOS is due to having to buy a Pixel which, wherever I look, would be around $400-$500 for something that they themselves admit would likely only get around 7 years of support.

I can't spend that kind of money right now. I need something below $300 and if possible, below $200.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Honestly, $400-$500 for 7 years of support is a killer deal. 5 years ago the only manufacturer to give a meaningful amount of support was Apple, everyone else was up to 2, even for flagships.

But I completely understand your situation, especially if you're trying to be fiscally responsible and NOT get your phone on a payment plan of some sort. The 7 years of support means you might be able to find a 2 year old Pixel for below 300 though? Unless they don't depreciate fast enough for that.

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[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unfortunately the first device from this partnership is unlikely to be cheaper than the a series Pixel lineup. The GrapheneOS team already confirmed it will have a flagship snapdragon SOC. Have you looked into used a series Pixel devices? The 8a can be had refurbished in the low $200 range, and it will have software support for 5 more years. The 9a can be had for about $250 and will receive 6 more years of updates.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly this is the most interesting thing in the world of mobile for me since I initially heard about GrapheneOS looking to branch out to another OEM as an option.

Assuming it is in fact a Motorola phone, it would have to be a big piece of shit or unbelievably expensive for what it is before I wouldn't be very tempted by it.

If it was literally a Moto G Power 2025/2026 with GrapheneOS out of the box for $300-$800 I would probably be on board. Supporting something not Google Play or Apple bound is important enough to me that I will pay some level of a premium price for it to support the mission behind it, like I do with System76.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

lenovo doesnt strike me as a privacy lover and avid kernel updater.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Motorola is a major supplier of communication equipment for the IDF and produces bomb fuses used in IDF's bombs. It also donated money to Project 2025.

I don't know, I expect them to call it the (We're clear on) OPSEC 1

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[–] guillem@aussie.zone 15 points 1 month ago

I hope this will also be good for affordability and we'll get GrapheneOS on more downmarket devices.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (11 children)

As an iPhone user from the 3G days, this is legitimately interesting to me. I love the form factor of the modern Razr flip-phones, and having access to a privacy-focused OS like Graphene might just tip me over the edge.

Anyone with first-hand experience, how’s Graphene OS with banking apps?

[–] berrodeguarana@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It runs fine on my Pixel 7a, I have an account with 2 Brazilian banks and they all work well.

Some apps just don't work though, but they are far and between, an example is Brazil's gov.br, which is a website that is used for ID confirmation on everything that pertains to the government (tax revenue, your own business details,etc.). But then an old phone does that job for me at home.

Speaking of Brazil, it is worth mentioning that Google Pixels are not officially sold here. The ones I did obtain I bought on a "Brazilian eBay" and there is no e-SIM support for it nor any warranty services. I had to do the battery replacement myself despite knowing that Google was offering to fix faulty Pixel 7a's on NA/India/Europe/etc. I am only bringing this up because, coincidentally, 50% of Motorola's smartphone sales are on LATAM. It's a pretty smart move they are making if you ask me, they are aware they could explore this huge market it seems.

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[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I haven't had any trouble with banking apps. One gives me a warning but allows me to continue. Google Wallet doesn't work for payments but that is just fine with me.

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[–] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Switched from Motorola to a pixel for Grapheme. This is cool to learn!

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hell yeah. I use a Motorola so hopefully I can get back support.

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[–] glitching@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

nothing is confirmed here, chill with the high-fives

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 9 points 1 month ago
[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wish they would support the fairphone.

I suppose it would be a good candidate for that.

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[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Holy shitβ€”YES!

Damn.. I wanted it to be Blackberry

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Lenovo*

Motorola does not have a mobile phone business, Google absorbed that ages ago. The brand and only the brand was sold to Lenovo.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

If they've got a model with a stylus then I'm sold.

[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

This is potentially very good news. Image GrapheneOS on a base model Motorola.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

yay! i have a motorola phone hopefully i will be able to install grapheneOS on it some day. though for some stupid government/banking apps i'll probably need a secondary, crappier phone with the usual spyware on it. i really hope that they make grapheneOS available for already purchased Motorola phones.

edit: from what i see it looks like it's probably gonna be for newer devices, and that is very sad, as i'm only gonna buy a new phone in like 3 to 4 years. Anyway, at least motorola has pretty good hardware and ok prices. Wait, do newer motorola phones come with a headphone jack? my Moto G55 has a headphone jack.

https://keepandroidopen.org/ <- offtopic with the post, but i'm just leaving this here in case someone hasn't seen it.

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