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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Regressive taxes are the name of the game. Tax the poors and get them pay for the government.

That is all tariffs are as well. A regressive tax that the poor pay. They had been trying to ram through a flat tax which would do the same thing for years and now they are doing it underhandedly with tariffs.

That is why the Republicans aren't throwing a fit, because it is secretly exactly what they have always wanted.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Really surprised to hear they have sales tax on ALL food, not just packaged stuff or restaurant food! Not sure what the rationale is for that.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

anything but taxing the rich

Didn’t you know? Billionaires eat hundreds of millions of steaks a year!

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Its a republican majority in Missouri.

That's why.

And yes I know a republican suggested this bill. It's all theater. Get one of them to introduce something like this so the rest can strike it down but then you feel some slight glimmer of hope because, "well_ they are trying to help us!!"

But they aren't. They never are.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

In EU you have VAT on everything, so it's not that different. Usually food products gave reduced rate tho

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only good thing about living here is our rent and gas prices are still relatively lower than average. If they start passing shit like this, might as well go move over to Illinois or do my shopping there.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

In the EU and the UK all food has sales tax. It's around 20 percent for "luxury" food and around 5 percent for necessary food like bread and milk (some countries have more levels, like France, which has 20, 10, 5 and 2.5).

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Far from it dude! I’m in Canada.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

oh, yeah. most US states still require sales tax on all food, regardless of if it's raw or not.

it's yet another one of those things Americans don't realize how fucked up it is until someone points out why it's fucked up.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The vast majority of states do not tax food items.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

keep in mind the definition of what foods are and are not taxed vary from state to state.

some state may not tax you for a box of cereal, while another will because it's been prepared and is "ready to eat".

that would mean that the only time tax benefit would help consumers is when they are buying raw foods such as fruits and vegetables. something that most Americans can't afford and usually purchase canned (processed).

just because a state has a law that forbids them from "taxing groceries" doesn't mean there's a direct benefit to consumers.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Yeah US sales tax applies to everything. It's not like HST that varies by product

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I didn't realize there were states where groceries were taxed.

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I thought states that taxes groceries were the norm. If this is not true I will be even madder.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I live in ohio. Food not taxed, drinks are.

In OHIO.

Yeah, Ohio has its shit together more than your state.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ohio functioned remotely ok not that long ago

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, it's only been the last 30-40 years that we've been falling down the same rabbit hole that places like OK or AL have.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've lived in Missouri my whole life and never really grocery shop when I go out of state. You telling me other states just pay the sticker price?

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago

On food items, yes.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

yes, besides maybe niche items like soda.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Bad news for ya. Texas checking in with tax-free food

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are states where they aren't?!

Connecticut has sales tax on most things but not groceries except for certain things like energy drinks and sodas.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

i mean they have to compensate by having next to no corporate or income tax, those are usually the POORER states too.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

we still have grocery tax in my state. I think at the least they should not allow tax on fresh foods and I would include bags of beans and grains as fresh.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago

Some states probably really really want to tax your tax if they could.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

$54 a month isn't exactly a lot. I'd question the sense of that tax altogether, because it induces processing and collection costs

[–] Ryoae@piefed.social 32 points 2 days ago (4 children)

State Sen. Mary Elizabeth Coleman, an Arnold Republican, said the bill is an attempt to increase affordability for Missourians as prices rise.

Read that over and over again, Missourians.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago

You may have misread something here, Coleman is in favour of the bill, not against.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

poor and hungry people will work for much less wage than people with proper nutrition and savings accounts.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Read it again! ~(jk)~

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah fuck the bill’s sponsor and her desire to reduce costs for a family of four by $50 every month

State Sen. Mary Elizabeth Coleman, an Arnold Republican, said the bill is an attempt to increase affordability for Missourians as prices rise.

“Missourians are paying more and more for necessities,” Coleman said. “Most of us agree fundamentally that essential services should not be funded on the backs of the poor.”

Coleman said a family of four would save $54 per month with the removal of grocery sales tax.

[–] Kjell@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's nice to try to reduce the cost for the citizens but with less tax money some other tax needs to be increased or some service will have to save money.

Dimmitt also said that because the bulk of property taxes go to schools and other jurisdictions, local governments rely on sales taxes to fund police and fire departments, road repairs, trash and recycling, among many other services.

[–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Easy, take some of the taxes that's going to the police and do something useful with them

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 20 points 2 days ago

The state of misery always lives up to its name.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Tax cuts only benefit corporations. They already price their goods at the maximum that consumers will (read: are able to) pay. Guess what happens if consumers can suddenly pay 10% more because they don’t have to pay 10% tax?

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

well you no longer have to do the off-label calculation

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

one of the things i love about australian taxes: by law the displayed price must include all taxes… the price on the label/menu/sign/website/whatever is the price you pay… by law

always catches me out in the US adding tax and tip 😓 i end up spending way more than i’d intended and having a far worse experience because of it

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

It's usually even more sinister for tips when using machines as the % is calculated on the total (including tax). Duplicitous bullshit.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

No. There is nuance to the tax cut and tax levy argument. Circumstances matter. Cutting taxes on groceries would immediately lower food prices for everyone, the poor included.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So the opposite must be true too right? When taxes go way up companies drop their prices to compensate because, according to you they only charge what consumers can pay. Except that doesn't happen at all. Instead tariffs caused prices to go way up.

What complete nonsense.