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[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've always thought that characters who insist they can taste the difference are just being weird snobs.

I also assume that all Starfleet NCOs know how to override the synthehol setting

One thing the Orville did that Trek was too cowardly to do is mention that killing and eating an animal is seen as legally and morally tantamount to murder. So while Starfleet officers treated Riker's real eggs as a special treat, Union officers would have responded with shock and horror.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

one fan idea is that the replicated food is always exactly the same so you could tell the difference side by side.

idk why they don't replicate ingredients instead of complete dishes more often but they do that sometimes.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

one fan idea is that the replicated food is always exactly the same

As a person with autism, sounds ideal tbh

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

only most of the starfleet engineers are autistic

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I suppose we could put in a little stir randomizer option for those NT freaks

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

one fan idea is that the replicated food is always exactly the same so you could tell the difference side by side.

That’s sort of my assumption. Replicator food probably tastes great, but every dish would taste exactly the same as the last time you had it. You could ask for it to be prepared differently, but whatever you asked for would also be exactly the same every time. Plus, I bet there would be a sort of uncanny overall similarity between all the dishes irrespective of individual flavor profile, like a corporate chain restaurant menu.

A replicator would be consistent, and it would have a substantial amount of variety in the selection, but it’s going to lack novelty. You’ll never get anything unexpected. Even if everything it makes is technically flawless, it’s going to be flawless in the same way.

I think when characters criticize replicated food, it’s not because the food isn’t good, or even that non-replicated food is “better”, but that replicated food is uninteresting. Doubtless some people are the equivalent of wine snobs who think they can taste things that they couldn’t possibly notice, but I fully understand how someone would look at yet another perfectly-executed, perfectly-presented replicator creation and wish they could get a meal from someone’s grandma who overcooks the vegetables and uses too much garlic, because at least that would be something different.

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, like, replicator is inherently cool and good. Even if the replicator was only pumping out soylent it would be absolutely incredible.

Pure snobbery.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Another example of Discovery not understanding Trek

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I rather liked this scene. I've been watching trek for decades and I'm not sure what they got wrong. Complaining about replicator food has been happening ever since it's been on screen

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's all about tone. TNG complaining about the replicator food is "oh, isn't cooking fun and artistic" this is "I've never had Real Food I'm just eating shit so grim and dark this is oppression"

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think his point he's making is that it isn't oppression.

Anyway, yes, Discovery has a darker tone, but I feel that's kind of the point given the various points in history it takes part in. Watch Academy if you want a return to optimism, I've been enjoying it a lot.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been watching and liking Academy, because it is a return to the optimism that Trek is supposed to be.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Whilst I appreciate that people may not like the grim aspects of some Star Trek shows, to say that Star Trek must be optimistic, kind of ignores shows like DS9 or Enterprise which feature literal megadeath crimes and galactic war, and you might say, "well they were fighting to preserve everything that made the federation/ post contact Earth an optimistic place to live", but I'd argue that that's exactly what they were doing in Discovery. Fighting to re-establish the federation and recover after a galaxy wide tradegy. Yes the tones of the show are different, but I don't think that it's undermining what star trek is, it's just showing the alternative of what happens when you don't have space communism, or what is required to defend it against space fascists.

Again, all that aside, you might still hate the show, which is fine, but I object to the idea that in a narrative universe as huge as star trek, every entry has to confirm to some sort of strict guidelines on tone.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Enough folks have mentioned Academy that I checked it out. And for the most part, I'm digging it. But idk. Some of it is really good, like today's episode I thought was particularly well done, but then there's others where there might as well be Chyron at the bottom of the screen with WOULDNT IT HAVE BEEN AMAZING TO GO TO HOGWARTS? Lol.

Also sometimes the inconsistency of the characters grate on me? Jay-Den feels like a roulette wheel at times.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's been a few duff episodes, and yeah, Jayden was suddenly great at public speaking at that wedding (but I actually love the character), but still, I'm happy that so many of the episodes center around a fairly solid premise and don't resort to needless action. Episodes 2 and 3 were like old school trek debate porn, and the Ben Sisko episode was great I thought.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ya, the good eps have been really good, but sometimes it's so bad that it kinda takes me out of it.😅 But also, maybe I'm too old and not the target audience. Like some of the episode formats are clearly leaning towards a younger crowd. SAM's first individual ep reminded me hard of Ms. Marvel on d+, which didn't really grab me.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really liked that one. I thought that they treated the old DS9 lore with a lot of respect, while still having quirky fun with the SAM character. Also the Holographic overlord voice thing really has some retro sci-fi vibes too it that tickled me.

That bit of Avery Brooks poetry at the end really got me. It was also great to see Jake again, and Dax!

Also, was that original Trill makeup from early TNG? If so that was a deeeep cut.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

I did find it to be an interesting ep, and it definitely tugged at the ol' heartstrings. But, I watched TNG and Ds9 back when they aired, so my memory is very fuzzy. lol. Also, more TNG than ds9, admittedly. I remember the broad strokes, but I think I also get ds9 stuff confused with Babylon 5 sometimes. catgirl-sorry

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[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is the idea that replicators operate on the same fundamental principles as transporters? They seem very similar. Theoretically one could identically create any food, perhaps the fidelity of the replication is energetically/computationally limited.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not really. transporters need much higher resolution and move things from place to place in a matter stream, while replicators can't make living stuff and are an energy to matter conversion.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

i really wish there would be a technobabble reboot with transporter operation to either a personal wormhole through subspace or a perfect matter to energy conversion and back again

instead of being deconstructed and reconstructed you are just transformed into an energy ghost for a nanosecond and all the M-theory strings are combed back to being matter again and you materialize

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

are you familiar with lieutenant broccoli? Realm Of Fear from TNG is one of the more "what's going on with the transporter" episodes

[–] Des@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

yeah that one made me think they subtly changed it to the "energy ghost" method instead of the old Trek deconstruction thing. TNG tried to hint that the Federation had basically totally mastered energy to matter conversion and back again.

i guess to the point where all these weird particles with silly names could just be conjured up from space-time itself because you've basically tapped into the earliest stage of the universe

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Yes. There's an episode of DS9 where some Klingons rig a replicator as a transporter to place a small surveillance device.