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[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's all about tone. TNG complaining about the replicator food is "oh, isn't cooking fun and artistic" this is "I've never had Real Food I'm just eating shit so grim and dark this is oppression"

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think his point he's making is that it isn't oppression.

Anyway, yes, Discovery has a darker tone, but I feel that's kind of the point given the various points in history it takes part in. Watch Academy if you want a return to optimism, I've been enjoying it a lot.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Enough folks have mentioned Academy that I checked it out. And for the most part, I'm digging it. But idk. Some of it is really good, like today's episode I thought was particularly well done, but then there's others where there might as well be Chyron at the bottom of the screen with WOULDNT IT HAVE BEEN AMAZING TO GO TO HOGWARTS? Lol.

Also sometimes the inconsistency of the characters grate on me? Jay-Den feels like a roulette wheel at times.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's been a few duff episodes, and yeah, Jayden was suddenly great at public speaking at that wedding (but I actually love the character), but still, I'm happy that so many of the episodes center around a fairly solid premise and don't resort to needless action. Episodes 2 and 3 were like old school trek debate porn, and the Ben Sisko episode was great I thought.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ya, the good eps have been really good, but sometimes it's so bad that it kinda takes me out of it.😅 But also, maybe I'm too old and not the target audience. Like some of the episode formats are clearly leaning towards a younger crowd. SAM's first individual ep reminded me hard of Ms. Marvel on d+, which didn't really grab me.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really liked that one. I thought that they treated the old DS9 lore with a lot of respect, while still having quirky fun with the SAM character. Also the Holographic overlord voice thing really has some retro sci-fi vibes too it that tickled me.

That bit of Avery Brooks poetry at the end really got me. It was also great to see Jake again, and Dax!

Also, was that original Trill makeup from early TNG? If so that was a deeeep cut.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

I did find it to be an interesting ep, and it definitely tugged at the ol' heartstrings. But, I watched TNG and Ds9 back when they aired, so my memory is very fuzzy. lol. Also, more TNG than ds9, admittedly. I remember the broad strokes, but I think I also get ds9 stuff confused with Babylon 5 sometimes. catgirl-sorry

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been watching and liking Academy, because it is a return to the optimism that Trek is supposed to be.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Whilst I appreciate that people may not like the grim aspects of some Star Trek shows, to say that Star Trek must be optimistic, kind of ignores shows like DS9 or Enterprise which feature literal megadeath crimes and galactic war, and you might say, "well they were fighting to preserve everything that made the federation/ post contact Earth an optimistic place to live", but I'd argue that that's exactly what they were doing in Discovery. Fighting to re-establish the federation and recover after a galaxy wide tradegy. Yes the tones of the show are different, but I don't think that it's undermining what star trek is, it's just showing the alternative of what happens when you don't have space communism, or what is required to defend it against space fascists.

Again, all that aside, you might still hate the show, which is fine, but I object to the idea that in a narrative universe as huge as star trek, every entry has to confirm to some sort of strict guidelines on tone.