Tangential, but I this made me realize I honestly don't know the member names of most of the bands I listen to. I kinda know their faces if they have videos.
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Blood Sweat & Tears had like 200 members, my dad knew one of the founding members and went to one of their concerts a couple years back. Got to talk to them after the show and not one of them had even heard of the guy. Feels like the ultimate example of this
Newsboys, a major Christian rock band founded in 1985. All original members have been replaced.
Their most-recent lead singer, formerly of DC Talk, turned out to be a super rapey POS.
Glenn Miller Orchestra was formed a while after Glenn Miller (of "Glenn Miller and his orchestra"-fame) disappeared in 1942. The new band was more or less a continuation of the old band, with some overlap in members. They're still active today.
IIRC, the intention was for Deep Purple to continuously have members come and go, effectively making them a Band of Thesseus. However, there was one lineup that was a lot more successful and famous, so changing the lineup would be detrimental to success.
Not up to date personally, but I feel like at one point Guns n' Roses was just Axl and all different musicians
Yes, that's because it was. The album Chinese Democracy was basically a solo project by Axl.
The Ink Spots are an interesting case. They're a vocal group from the 30s. Not only did that group Theseus itself and then dissolve by the 50s, but afterward there were legal disputes. A bunch of the past members claimed rights to the name. Courts ultimately said 'nobody owns the name, you can all use it'. So anybody with any connection was going around performing as The Ink Spots, and those groups were also changing members. So over the decades there were probably multiple fully Theseus'd versions of the group going at the same time.
Andrew Hickey has a good podcast episode on it that you can listen to/read. https://500songs.com/podcast/the-ink-spots-thats-when-your-heartaches-begin/
I don't want to set the world on fiiiire.
I never knew bands could reproduce by mitosis.
Napalm Death though the current line-up has been the same since their third album with sad exemption of Jesse Pintado who passed away in 2006.
Foreigner
ELO is an interesting case. Pinning down the original members is already a bit tricky, because the first album was really just a side project of The Move, before Roy Wood left to start Wizzard in the middle of doing their second album. If we're generous and say their third album was really their first as a seperate band, we end up with a group that's fairly static throughout the 70s and that most fans would call the classic lineup. the only two truly original members, though, were Jeff Lynne and Bev Bevan, and everyone else in the and was technically considered an employee, which you can imagine led to all sorts of legal chaos
in the late 80s Jeff decided to shutter the band. Bev Bevan wanted to continue but Jeff considered himself synonymous with ELO being their writer, so eventually the two of them agreed to let Bev tour under the name ELO Part II with a lot of the members of the classic lineup. In the early 2000s, Jeff wanted in again but the "employees" thing and some legal trouble between him and Part II left him wanting to start fresh. No one knows the full story, but Bev, who was seemingly still enthusiastic about touring, suddenly decided to retire. Part II had to rebrand to The Orchestra, no longer having a The Move representative, but kept touring. Meanwhile Jeff did an album and a short tour with his new ELO, which had their classic keyboard player but The Orchestra had basically everyone else from the classic lineup. Jeff's ELO went dormant until 2015 where it went by the literal name of Jeff Lynne's ELO. Keyboard player Richard Tandy recently passed away, and with violinist Mik Kaminski retiring this year from the Orchestra, ELO has not one but two ships, one of which has been completely and thoroughly Theseused and the other just one plank away.
there's a metal band called Zao that's been around for ages and have had all members replaced. they wrote a song (called ship of Theseus) about it.
Yes for a couple of decades was like the anti-Ship of Theseus. They would go on tour with everybody who had ever been in the band at any point. They even had Peter Banks (guitarist on their first two largely unknown albums) and The Buggles with them.
Actually kind of a cool concept as their studio albums used a lot of overdubbing which was impossible for single musicians on stage to reproduce. Having 17 guitarists means you can do it all.
I think "The Skatalites" qualify, simply out of the age of the band.
Technically "Panic! at the Disco", if you can count every band member except the singer leaving, and being replaced by sessionists
you must have different definition of "all" than I
I fully misread 😭
I'm outing myself, but La Bottine Souriante is a Quebec/French Canadian folk band who's founding member are all no longer current members.
Tangerine Dream, but that's kind of their whole thing to be a ship of theseus, always changing.
The Hype Williams duo made some great hypnagogic pop in 2010-12, and then stopped. Then in 2016 it turned out that they handed the project over to some completely different people, who released two or three more albums since then. These new releases suck in comparison.
Lynyrd Skynyrd's last original member died in 2023 and they're still touring.
And half that band half already died almost 50 years ago.
Sugababes in the UK.
At one point all the original members were replaced.
Then in 2011 the new members were replaced by the originals again.
The search results are interesting, but I haven't heard of half the bands:
Bands with No Original Members
- Opeth: No original members remain, with the last, David Isberg, leaving in 1992.
- Jinjer: All founding members from their 2008 formation have left.
- Napalm Death: Formed in 1982, the band replaced its entire original lineup within the first five years.
- Molly Hatchet: None of the members from the 1978 original lineup or first album are present.
- Thin Lizzy: Still tours with no original members, including only two who played on earlier studio material.
- Blood, Sweat & Tears: Has had nearly 200 members, with all original members leaving early in their career.
- The Spinners: While they had long-term members, by 2010, the original lineup was gone.
- In Flames: No original members from their 1990 inception remain.
- Foreigner: Due to health issues, founding member Mick Jones ceased touring with them.
- Judas Priest: No original members are in the current touring lineup.
- Yes: Features no original members.
Bands with Only One Original Member Left (Often Considered "One-Member" Bands)
- AC/DC: Angus Young is the sole remaining original member, as of 2024.
- Iron Maiden: The only remaining original member is bassist Steve Harris.
I don't know about other bands but the bit about iron maiden is really stretched.
I guess if you consider the first lineup to be the one for their first concert in a bar's basement, alright. But if you take the first album, Dave Murray was already in the band and still is.
Oh, man. I've totally heard of over half of these bands.
Jinjer is still awesome!
Some of these are real stretches involving band names getting swapped around.
The original band called "Judas Priest" broke up entirely. KK Downing, and Ian Hill were in a band called Freight together. Al Atkins of the now-defunct Judas Priest joined Freight, and they decided the now-available name of Judas Priest was cooler. It was not the same band. Furthermore, before their first album was recorded Atkins was replaced with Halford, and Tipton also joined. So I would count Ian Hill, Rob Halford, and Glenn Tipton all as founding members.
Opeth is similar. The first Opeth before Ackerfeldt broke up without recording any albums.
Napalm Death was what popped up first in my mind. I remember it being a bit weird at the time with a band that swapped every single member.
Yes: Features no original members.
This is technically true, but Yes does still have Steve Howe who was the guitarist on their first hit album ("The Yes Album" in 1971).
Is this AI slop? Because it's certainly wrong.
Judas Priest: No original members are in the current touring lineup.
Rob Halfords left in the late 90s but returned in the 00s and is still the frontman.
According to Wikipedia, the band formed in 69 and the earliest a current member joined was 70 (Ian Hill). Halfords didn't join until 73.
TIL. That all happened before their first album though. Not sure I'd count that.
Founding members are those who founded the band, which is (potentially) different from anyone on any record.
Although Judas Priest's case is special, according to a comment below.
Yeah, same for Opeth, Mikael is Opeth for all intents and purposes, him joining a few months after the band's inception is irrelevant.
Opeth is a strange one and I don't think it really counts. The band was still forming when the current leader of the band joined. Yeah if you're super technical then the band that formed didn't include him, but it seems like the "original" group hadn't even played any showed before Akerfelt joined.
In a bio that Akerfelt wrote he says that basically the band died the day he showed up to a rehearsal and later he and the original founder "reformed" Opeth, so it's debatable if it's a ship of thesius situation or a new ship with the same name.