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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And then some MAGA will claim that it causes athelete's foot, with no evidence at all, and it will be banned.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I am going to laugh when your comment gets cited as the source evidence for why this causes acute athletes foot.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 minutes ago

"I read it on the Internet, so that's a better source than YOU."

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't mind seeing a cute athlete's foot.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

So the researchers are planning trials where one person is vaccinated and then deliberately infected to see how their body copes.

Umm... What? Excuse me, but when has this been legal?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

They've been doing that stuff to animals for decades. Time we all started sharing the load

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I dunno, if the vaccine was "safe," and it really comes down to will this stop me getting a cold, I'd take one for the team. Maybe not the flu or COVID, although COVID never affected me so maybe I wouldn't be a good candidate.

We just need an island of clones that we can test on, because clones aren't real!

[–] Abrinoxus@thelemmy.club 8 points 11 hours ago

This would wreck the dow oh no

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago

Something something Umbrella corp

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The approach described in the journal Science does not train the immune system. Instead it mimics the way immune cells communicate with each other.

It is given as a nasal spray and leaves white blood cells in our lungs – called macrophages – on "amber alert" and ready to jump into action no matter what infection tries to get in.

The effect lasted for around three months in animal experiments.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 hours ago

Ye$$$$, quarterly vaccination$$$

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm no immunologist, but there has to be a reason why we evolved so our immune system doesn't constantly stay on "amber alert". There has got to be drawbacks.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So one of the reasons asbestos is so dangerous is that it gets in your lungs where macrophages detect it as being foreign and try to destroy it. The issue is that asbestos is way larger than these cells and it's pretty resilient so they can't break it apart and eat it. The cells "get frustrated " so they start releasing inflammatory substances trying to find a way to neutralize this foreign body. That prolonged inflammation is what eventually leads to mesothelioma and other cancers.

I'm not sure how they plan to avoid the inflammation caused by these cells being in constant fighting infection mode.

[–] UnrepentantAlgebra@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Hold up so I could have as much asbestos as I wanted if it weren't for my stupid immune system?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

You could lick subway poles too!

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the way evolution works is "whatever works that keeps the species alive".

We haven't evolved reading glasses, but they are helpful devices with very few downsides.

That said, there may well be unintended consequences and effects, sure.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think of it this way. The immune system is like an army, ready to fight off foreign invaders. If you were a king, would you want a huge standing army at all times, or the ability to draft soldiers as needed? Having a huge standing army is not only a waste of resources if there isn't anything to fight, but your soldiers might get bored and invent things to fight or just stir up trouble.

So my guess is you'd be prone to inflammation and develop food sensitivities, but it's a total guess. If they were the case though, chronic inflammation is really bad long term.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yes, I understand the theory. And it's fine to discuss speculation, because that could turn out to be the case.

But I also brought up glasses because not everything the body has done to survive is something that can't be changed.

We'll have to see what happens when we turn up the immune system.

As a hopefuly kidney transplant candidate at some point… I'm very interested as I know after a transplant, I have to take things to suppress my immune system, so I particularly suspect for that reason I might not be able to benefit from this new thing..... but I hope I'm wrong :)

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Probably why there are auto-immune disorders, no? When the body randomly chooses to attack itself. Not a scientist so just speculating.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 5 points 1 day ago

On one hand I can see the benefit of using such a booster right before flu season. On the other hand, yeah does it have a crash at the end? Does an overactive immune system damage healthy tissues? Does it create inflammation response that leads to depression, fatigue, other chronic issues? There is A LOT that can go wrong there.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Sure. You wouldn't want it all the time. Aside from auto-immune issues even simple things like allergies might be worse

But if we think of it as a booster it could be useful. Someone in the household comes down with something, then everyone else does a quick squirt with the immu-alert nasal spray.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’d be really worried about autoimmune reactions. I swear there’s been a few Trek episodes where some kind of universal vaccine has unintended consequences.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure I'd put any truck into fictional sci-fi where everything needs a good story, so any positive needs a negative…

…but I get it. And yeah, it's a worry.

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Same. Every major corona infection I suffered has set off my immune system for months, leading to debilitating nerve and joint pain. Even some vaccinations trigger this, but with shorter and way less symptoms, modern vaccines are way better than what they prevent. So I have high hopes.

I get a light version of the flu for about a day after getting the flu vaccine despite everyone saying the vaccine doesn’t give me the flu. Low fever, achy joints, tiredness, sometimes even congestion.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Can you please CW this post, for people like RFK this could be really triggering of their emotions.