this post was submitted on 14 Feb 2026
49 points (94.5% liked)

Ask Lemmy

37748 readers
1264 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world or !askusa@discuss.online


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Search results are useless, AI is poisoning Wikipédia. While I do have the patience to read primary sources in my field of study, it becomes a nightmare to repeat this process for every bit of information I want.

I'm almost signing up for Encyclopedia Britannica. I don't know what else to do.

all 30 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't. I ignore the news to the best of my ability. I can't be misinformed if I'm not informed in the first place.

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] SenK@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

I'm very critical on what kind of information I even need on daily basis. If my only reason for getting information on something is To Be Right On The Internet, I don't bother. I don't need to know shit about how a particle accelerator actually works and it has no bearing on my personal life. If I want to satisfy an intellectual curiosity about something, I can get some pop-science about it from a source that seems credible enough after a cursory glance (they need to cite studies/statistics at the very least, and I take a look at the studies too depending a bit on the gravity of the matter. I'm not going to scrutinize a cooking video about a historical dish too deeply, I'll assume the general idea is close enough - but I will be very critical of anything talking about politically divisive topics, especially ones where there are people who have a very strong idea of what the "correct" opinion is), but I keep the awareness that it does NOT make me an expert and I should NOT inject myself into conversations about the matter (except to ask questions). And if some smalltalk touches on the topic, I can frame my comments appropriately like "I'm not familiar with the topic but my understanding was...". Though even then I'd consider the critical thinking capabilities of the person I'm talking to. If I think they're dumb enough to take what I say as a fact despite the framing, I'll not say anything.

As for actually important information: local news, universities of good reputation, science organizations of good reputation. All the while keeping in mind that they're not infallible. There's just a greater probability that the information there is accurate and unbiased. In general I've taught myself to think of the world in terms of probabilities, not in binary "true/false" statements.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 8 points 8 hours ago

You don't really.

Skepticism is a practiced skill, rather than just "being skeptical", you can learn how to assess credibility of a source, and develop a habit of doing so.

I quite like skeptics guide to the universe podcast. Although I admit I usually skip chunks of each episode.

Another avenue is researching about cognitive biases. We all do it.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

AI is poisoning Wikipédia.

Huh?

[–] MrLLM@ani.social 0 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, they clearly stated their need to find a way to get reliable information

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I don't get that. Wikipedia is a fine source.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Wikipédia is fighting an ongoing and ever increasing issue of collaborators pushing AI text into articles, which contain false information.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And there's corporations pushing agendas into primary sources. And there's lying liars who lie for lying's sake.

If you're going to draw the line at "unassailable truth" then you're doing all the work yourself.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Wikipedia has an army of human writers that probably don't take too kindly to AI.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's actually about 15 people that mostly maintain it.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

[citation needed]

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

RSS ( multiple sources for current events) , Wikipedia, and forums.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

For news: the Bylines network in the UK. They have a source checker for every article.

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago

Similar to the top comment, I learned leftist political theory (mindset in their case). Once you understand what capitalism and socialism truly are, you have almost like a shield to protect you from certain propaganda. This sounds arrogant, but its genuinely been my experience

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

really you don't. you read forum posts and try to guess to what degree the information is credible.

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 9 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, forum posts are becoming really useful again. A few years ago whenever someone posted a question to a forum you could often find the same snarky remark in the comments: 'just google it'. There was even a website created to add to the snark (let me google that for you). And there was some truth to that comment. Usually you could find the answer pretty easily with a quick search.

But that's not the case anymore. With AI slop, search engines are getting less and less helpful. Slop has polluted our search results just like plastic has polluted our oceans. It's at the point now where search engines are almost useless for large subsets of common queries. So we are slowly returning to a pre-search engine era. In this new, post-search engine era, forum posts provide a very useful way of providing information. Long live the forum.

[–] dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago

Nothing is a panacea against slop, but for general search, I've become a huge fan of Kagi. Gave up Google years ago, went to DDG, but Kagi is a cut above. There is a subscription fee, however. (Not shilling - no association with them, just a happy user).

[–] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I don't know if it's a location as much as a mindset for me.

I look for fallacies and falsehoods and should they arise at rates that would.be hard to chalk up as honest error, I stop trusting the source.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

most news are from propaganda sources, look for how its being worded in the title.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 1 points 6 hours ago

And what photo they're using. Most news outlets use unflattering pictures of the people they don't like.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Use the Google flag of "before:2022" added to any search. This will limit returned results to only those captured before 2022, which is when AI slop feedback started. Obviously this doesn't work for current events, but if the data you're looking for doesn't need to be recent it can be useful.

Example:

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

this actually did show me slightly better results, although the results were nowhere near a slam dunk.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

I just follow you around and read what you throw out.

[–] pir8t0x@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a user of Brave Search and I get reliable information with every search. I wonder what kind of information you're even looking for though. And Wikipedia is still pretty reliable for me.... Maybe try Brave Search instead of Google?

[–] gilokee@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I didn't even know Brave had a search engine, is it any good? I use duckduckgo and it's okay.

edit - you said it's good. I wonder what others think/how it compares to DDG and the big evil one.

[–] pir8t0x@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Personally, I have tried many search engines (Google, Startpage, DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, Bing, Mojeek, Presearch etc.). And so far, it's the best one I have used. And on top of that, it's not Big Tech and it literally has an independent index which means it doesn't rely on Google or Bing for it results. So I personally highly suggest it. It also has an AI overview (powered by their own AI) like Google but pretty useful unlike Google. If you don't like it, you can disable it though.

And it also has its own AI called "Ask Brave", which is totally up to your choices if you wanna use it or not. I'm just letting you know.

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Brave gives higher quality search results than DDG but its not as good at niche queries. If you’re looking for something very specific then use DDG. But if your query is about a really broad, general topic then Brave will probably give you better results.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago

What kind of information are you looking for?