They say it's the opposable thumb that sets us apart, but no, it's the butt cheeks.

A lot of baby animals need mama to lick their butt to stimulate pooping. As a volunteer you have to rub their butt with a wet tissue every few hours.

I mean, I think they're saying we should be eating baby animals, right? Because they're dumber than babies, so therefore completely edible!

Yeah, they are comparing food animals at their best against humans at their worst.

That's kind of like saying I can do math better than Einstein can because Einstein is dead.

I can't remember the details but I remember reading something about this. In the evolutionary sense there's a trade off for our big sophisticated brains. We're not born fully developed, we need another year or so just to build out the wiring and muscles necessary to walk even.

I mean it's just a meat bad post, I don't think they put much thought into the actual argument and just tried to make something that would skirt by the rules here

Animals are suffering because we eat them.

STOP GUILT TRIPPING ME

Thanks my best work thus far in my entire life.

Why?

but you can only jail and murder human beings.

But you can certainly imprison and kill animals. You are arguing semantics here.

Uh???

I guess my realization is more about just how simple the argument is for not torturing animals.

Like even owning a pet means you took that poor fellow away from its family. We should probably stop owning animals like that.

Regurgitated tat based on either something someone said yesterday or some YouTuber/tiktokers idiotic musings.

Shower thoughts in general have benn dead a whilst.

but if there was a certified humane cheese option

"Lab grown" dairy already exists and is commercially available for a few specific products. It uses precision fermentation (as opposed to cell cultivation). I've had ice cream and sour cream made via this process, though I am not aware of any cheeses produced this way nor am I sure if it is possible with this process because it only creates certain components of dairy.

The world certainly pulls and pushes us in different ways. I don't eat meat for many reasons including the torture and suffering part. I'm alive and totally fine, but I think there's definitely a learning curve about the nutrition supplements needed to stay healthy. Anyway I still have some leather belts and shoes. I like art and have unflavored gelatine used in the carbon transfer process. There are a huge number of items in our every day that used to be sentient beings.

I used to have a default Costco chicken and tortillas diet. But one day this idea clicked for me...could I go one week without meat? Nothing about the whole moral thing. Just trying. So did it and I just kept doing it. The first week is definitely the hardest. If most people stopped eating meat, things would be better for everyone.. The meat industry, the planet, the animals and you.

It's a shower thought.

You don't eat your dog or cat unless you happen to be preordained by an orange turd entity. But normal human people don't eat their cats or dogs because they form some sort of relationship.

When I was a kid my dad raised pigs and chicken. I don't remember our pigs but I remember the chicken and I used to have a favorite chicken. It was my pet while for my mom and dad it was food. And it became food and I was told about later.

But now, I live in a neighborhood where silence appears to be golden even though we live next to a water airport Kenmore WA. You can't make noises or the neighbors will quickly complaint. If you had a pig here and you planned to eat it, it would not be acceptable to kill it. It's a sword with two sharp sides. On the one hand you want to raise your own food, on the other, murdering animals is no longer acceptable even when Everyone eats meat. You can murder thousands of animals... Just not where you live.

What does that mean? How do you learn to kill an animal if you can't do it in your backyard? How do you become a butcher if you are not allowed at a plant unless you are employed there...simple, if you didn't go to college and you're at the end of the rope you go to a butcher shop and they train you. And that's weird. You allow others to tell you how to murder animals so you can do that for a living to feed people who don't want to murder animals but like to eat their meat and would not give you specifically a job doing something else.

The whole subject is full of weird twists and points of view. But if you ever lived in a small village and you hear intense pig squeals that end abruptly, you know that later on there will be crunchy pig skin fries. Life, death, and a flavorful meal along with horrific noises and blood everywhere are all connected. To a person, who has been there, done that, the sudden realization of the horror the pig gods thru, is both bothersome and just so evil. I can't uneat all the animals I've eaten. And nutrition, I have my kids eat meat because I think its probably better for them than having some sort of special vitamin supplements.

It's a deep shower thought.

We're gonna have to beg.