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    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 64 points 2 months ago (2 children)
    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Are you even a true power user if you don't tattoo your headphones MAC address on your forearm?

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    If a power user, perhaps. But for a good UX enjoyers:

    bluetoothctl devices
    
    [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Letters? On my screen? Instead of icons and pictograms that I can click with my mouse? Preposterous!

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    [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

    I just tab and pray

    Paired devices are stored and have proper names

    [–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

    What if your heaphones break?

    [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    This. Bind connect command to a keyboard shortcut. Live in peace.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

    Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

    [–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

    Joke's on you, it was my keyboard that had connection issues! Wait, no. That joke was on me.

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    [–] apparia@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Ngl I really want to know what the tick icon actually does now.

    [–] IpsumLauren@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    If you hover on it (without clicking, resist the temptation) it says it is for "Mark/unmark this device as trusted".

    [–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Which in turn doesn't quite explain what happens. For me, the relevant difference was that 'trusted' devices autoconnect.

    [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Well there's "trusting" a device, "pairing" with a device and "connecting" to a device. Which need to be done in that order

    Which makes it even more confusing what the button does

    [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    This bastard of an app manages to expose too much of the underlying processes and logic, of which I don't care, in the utterly uninformative format. The OP forgot to mention that upon first pairing my headphones, I have to fend off three different notifications about ‘auth requests’, that provide me with no explanation what happens if I do or don't satisfy said requests. These also reappear after the headphones disconnect for some inexplicable reason, until I give up on learning further details and click ‘always auth’. Which seems to help with the disconnections. Apparently some audio profiles are also occasionally unavailable unless I appease the blue fucker with ‘always auth’.

    Sometimes the headphones fail to connect, and all I get is some cryptic error message, with the only understandable word being ‘timeout’.

    The tray menu has a shitload of items which I never need, and then always lists devices to which I can reconnect, even when they're already connected and have separate (and dynamic) menu items to disconnect from them. Plus each device is listed like they have titles of nobility, something like ‘audio and input profiles on HeadphonesModel’.

    [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Lmfao sounds like Bluetooth alright

    [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    The matter of wonder is that I never needed this ‘auth’ thing or the ‘trust’ thing in Windows, Mac, or Android, and never had recurring disconnection problems, before this experience. I just paired a device and then clicked ‘connect’ or ‘disconnect’ and went about my business. In fact, I was baffled by how people seem to always have some issues, devices connecting randomly, etc.

    Even Bluetooth range seems to have dropped compared to other platforms. My phone can reach the headphones over a large apartment, while laptop loses them if I walk behind a wall.

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    [–] IpsumLauren@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

    You can pair and connect without trusting. It will ask for authorization.

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Afair it pairs the selected bluetooth device. It will then enable the button left to it, to add the selected and connected device as trusted.

    [–] apparia@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    My assumption for the key icon was something to do with PINs/passkeys, which kind of reinforces OP's point.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Exactly! Why did two of the icons get icon+text label status, while the others got just icon status?!

    Either standardized on icon + text label, or just icon, or just text.

    We stopped using pictogram representations of concepts 2000 years ago and pivoted to symbols representing speech sounds, why are we regressing to pictograms again?

    [–] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 months ago

    Love the format, such shade

    [–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

    I personally like its adamant REFUSAL to be bullied into showing the actual state of devices. DMESG knows, because notifications show the correct state, but Blueman is over here IE6ing.

    [–] r4venw@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Wow I see this post exactly one day after spending 4 hours tearing my hair out trying to connect a switch pro controller using blueman only to find out that I apparently have to use bluetoothctl because blueman can't for some reason.

    Anyone run into this problem?

    [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I feel like there's something you need to use bluetoothctl for on every system

    For me it was trying to pair with a meshcore companion using a passcode

    [–] sepi@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    a meshcore heathen? in this economy? serves you right for not using meshtastic

    /s

    [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

    Meshtastic is completely dead here, apart from a few derelict repeaters. Meshcore is alive and linking 4 states on the east of Australia

    [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I've only worked once with a UX person and all they did was order other people to produce design documents before any software was written. Like, he didn't design anything himself and didn't even critique others' designs. He made over $300K and eventually left for a job on the west coast making twice as much. He stopped talking to me entirely after the client had me write a prototype TV guide-type app for Blackberry. I created it entirely myself and the client loved it and wanted it released to the public exactly as it was. UX guy insisted (client didn't care at all) that all software needed a design document before any coding could take place, so he was forced to order somebody else to produce a design document for my app which already existed. He wouldn't even look at me when we passed in the hall after this.

    I assume that this is not actually what a UX person is supposed to be doing, but I have no idea what their real job is.

    [–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    The issue with newly emerging and poorly defined professions is that I could apply to any arbitrary position of that title, pretend like I've got expertise in a universal structure for it (managers love structure) and sound vaguely knowledgeable (hiring managers often don't know the subject matter).

    By the time they've figured out that I'm not actually contributing anything of value, I'm taking off to other pastures that aren't about to wilt, my experience serving as selling point for the next sucker to hire me.

    Of course, the people I just fucked over have no way of telling whether that's me being a fraud or whether it's the entire profession that's actually worthless and overhyped. Some, like you, err on the side of "I assume that person was a cunt", while others default to "UX is completely useless".

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    [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm guessing that the design documents might've been something in the vein of ‘user stories’ (if I correctly recall their name), which describe what some typical users would want to do with the app, so that the actual UI design would focus on these features being available front and center. This is a very legitimate design technique, and a good designer should always question why any elements must be present in the UI and whether they solve the user's goals.

    This Blueman thing would definitely benefit from such approach, because right now it exposes a lot of technical details about which I don't care, while simultaneously making my everyday operations with it inconvenient.

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    [–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah that dude was just a dick, but probably confidently, and in a field people don't know much about, so he was able to get away with it.

    I work with UX people frequently, and while they do love a good style guide, they're usually more concerned with the overall usability, legibility, and accessibility of an application. They're the people who (should) ensure your application works as expected and follows design and accessibility standards.

    [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

    follows design and accessibility standards

    Ah, this reminded me of another reason this dude hated me. One of my responsibilities with this gig was ensuring that the client's mobile apps passed accessibility testing. Making an app accessible is tedious work and every time we released an update the accessibility would be broken again. I tried to get this dude to bake the accessibility requirements into the design documents themselves on the off chance that the other developers would actually read the documents (lol as if) and make accessibility work from the get-go. He wasn't having it and couldn't be convinced that it mattered if blind people could use the apps or not. I had to sic the client (who faced enormous fines for failed accessibility tests) on him to get him to do it.

    [–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Heh.
    Design documents are only useful if those deciding the design are making it and are ready before the coding starts.
    And then there is this confusion of which "Design Document" one is talking about. It could be a UI/UX document or it could be the software design document, which would comprise multiple flow-diagrams, helping anyone pick up a project for maintenance and extension.

    [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    if those deciding the design are making it

    This kinda depends. User stories document the typical goals and workflow of the users with the app, and thus should come from the target users or at least the client like a manager. The designer is not qualified to make the user stories since they don't know the business domain, as it's called. But they know how to organize the UI for any particular goals.

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    [–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago

    In my Head I'm Reading all of this in Tantacrul's voice

    [–] jdr@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

    Trust the devs

    [–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago
    [–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

    I love this window.

    [–] certified_expert@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Is there a simple GUI for bluetoothctl?

    [–] PointyFluff@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago
    [–] Xylight 6 points 2 months ago

    most intuitive qt software

    [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

    That's why I, as a seasoned programmer, keep my fingers out of UI design. I leave that to the professionals.

    [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    When received signal strength maxes out, it might be indeed too much to transmit at full power because the devices are apparently close enough for lower power (that uses less energy from the battery and reduces interference, even with itself through reflection) to suffice. But that's the other way around. Also, the desktop Linux device is usually not the more battery-constrained one in the pair.

    [–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

    💯

    hopefully a FOSS organization will hire the person who made this

    [–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

    The top right quick-settings panel in gnome does the job for me

    [–] darkhz@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago

    Now do bluetuith please. I'd love a critique like this lol.

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