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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 82 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How incredibly privileged to not even be able to conceptualize that phrase.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well I mean when you say 8 in 10 are living paycheck to paycheck that got my ears up, sounds like BS to me, Americans are the heaviest spending nation on earth but you'd think they'd do a little better than 80% of them being 1 missed payday away from being broke

In contrast, the Federal Reserve found that 54% of Americans have emergency savings to cover three months of expenses. Bankrate found that while 59% of Americans are uncomfortable with their level of emergency savings, 34% are living paycheck to paycheck.

https://econofact.org/factbrief/is-there-a-consensus-that-a-majority-of-americans-are-living-paycheck-to-paycheck

[–] lemmyman@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, supposedly 41% of people earning 300-500k/yr are "paycheck to paycheck."

I couldnt find it just now, but there was a profile I read on one such person a while back. Of course, after paying private school tuition for 3 kids, monthly payments on their two Mercedes, and maxing out two 401ks, two iras, and hsa...they didn't have much money left over every month.

So I'm willing to believe that the OOP was more about this than about actual hand-to-mouth situations

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Yeah, paycheck to paycheck doesn't mean you are scrapping to get by, it means your monthly income is about the same as your monthly expenses.

That means it's not about your income or wealth, just cash in vs cash out. Why this can be misleading is that if you make $300k and are month to month, that means selling assets or filling chapter 11 bankruptcy could fix your finance problems. However, someone with a small income is probably already doing all they can do to survive. Both fit the definition, but their situations are vastly different.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago

"A paycheck? Those things my tenants use to pay me?"

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 months ago

Well, actually, lots of working and dying anyway. Cause any emergency you're fucked

[–] dumbass@piefed.social 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well when mommy government and daddy business get together to fuck you.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

they both be daddies.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It is a valid question.

How exactly do we quantify this concept because if its self reporting, I guarantee it includes people who have larger incomes claiming they are living pay check to pay check. These people should not be lumped with those who are struggling to afford a basic quality of life.

[–] Golden@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Paycheck to paycheck can be a pretty broad term. I worked at the bottom rung in healthcare scraping by and had to endure listening to people making 3x what I made talking about when their check was gonna hit the bank. It's easy to be broke when you have a spending problem

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

seriously. I had a client who brought in six figures per month after expenses. He still barely scraped by because he (1) was in major debt which he never paid down, only refinanced, (2) kept renovating his house unnecessarily (3) refused to stop taking vacations to Liberia (4) for some reason his wife is credibly accused of war crimes which occurred after they got married.

i was a college student and i had better credit, but he had access to more liquid funds. it was weird. if he missed a week of work, he'd be fine. if he missed two, he could not handle the pileup of bills. i could take a couple months off work and be fine. like i said, weird.

my old boss found some criminally interesting clients.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I had a boss years ago who owned a temp agency. When he bought the business it was giving him $40,000 per month in profits but this had dropped to $25,000 per month -- probably because he spent his day playing solitaire on his computer and listening to Rush LImbaugh instead of, you know, actually doing anything to benefit the business. I had the pleasure once of watching him berate his two receptionists (who made $7.25 an hour and had nothing whatsoever to do with the success of the business) for this drop in his income. He was friends with a bunch of west coast venture capitalists who were each worth hundreds of millions of dollars and his "poverty" absolutely burned him to his core.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Guy was pissed he wasn't as good at exploiting people as his VC friends. What a joke of a person.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Americans are famous for living beyond their means. Obviously there are a lot of genuinely poor people. But there are also many that just aren't financially responsible.

[–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

That really should be what's taught in schools instead of trying to teach them to pass some tests to get the schools money

[–] Datz@szmer.info 1 points 2 months ago

I distinctly remember watching some movie years ago that involved an American family dealing with debt/low income. They lived in a pretty big house and garden with a ton of crap inside, a good looking car too, and it didn't strike me as a poor family.

It was fictional, of course, but when half the Internet went "Nintendo raised prices from 70 to 80 bucks, I guess I'll stop buying since I need food", that implies to me they had no problem buying full price 60/70$ games (a luxury) consistently, and complaining about lacking basic needs. Same for a lot of people seemingly having multiple same gen consoles.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago

I think, if your savings can't cover your basic needs for a month, you're in it. If you miss one paycheck, your life basically falls apart. It also means, if you have a sudden cost (car repair, water pipe burst, or illness in the USA) that is more than a monthly paycheck (which in turn is more than your savings), you're done.

[–] JstAnthrUsr@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

While people like to dramatize their own Situation, wouldnt it be pretty easy to define it AS people who have as much spending as they have income without being able to save [amount].

If we want to exclude people who just dont save their money: people who have as much fixed spending as they have income

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

It’s just a banana Michael

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 months ago

It means youve won, cunt.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Makes on wonder which of the words he does not understand: "Living" or "Paycheck".

[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

It was actually the word "to".

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

It is a mystery, I guess we'll never know.

And don't forget, THE FED isn't a banking cartel! These bankers serving terms on the board are filled with love and affection for us, their little proles. THANK YOU FED THANK YOOOOUUU

[–] notsure@fedia.io 7 points 2 months ago

It means the people governing have never been a human being...

[–] basket@pie.gravitywell.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

out of touch idiots