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The same reason Donald Trump is president.
A significant percentage of Americans are too ignorant to know what's happening around them.
And another significant percentage are bigots who like it.
That's why this ship will almost certainly continue sinking after the orange rapist is dead.
had three women in an suv give slack for our friday return commute protest. It just blows my mind. their stuff is always. go trump if not an explexitive aimed at us. I mean you are yelling at signs talking about he should not ignore the constitutiion. its so surreal in some ways. all the while they are surrounded by cars giving us waves, thumbs up, peace signs. I honestly am not sure if they see how they are the only ones who are ok with this among the whole crowd at the traffic light.
But what do you call a place where people who’ve committed no criminal offense (immigration violations are civil, not criminal, infractions)?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
(a) Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
Only a small fraction of the people abducted have been convicted of any offense, let alone those listed. Many aren't even accused of any of those actions (e.g. overstaying a visa does not require fraud or evasion)
Curious as to why Common Dreams and others aren't using the term "Internment Camp"? I'm not trying to whitewash the present, but it does seem to me that a large number of people might feel that term "concentration camp" is a dramatization of the current situation. "Internment" is also awful but less loaded, and might get more people on board and thinking about this seriously. Thoughts?
Upvoting simply because I love to see people challenging their own opinions
Multiple reasons.
As is always the case when fascism, authoritarianism or similar takes over, things happen slowly, and there's a reason for that: humans notice fast changes very quickly, but not necessarily slow changes. They didn't start building these concentration camps yesterday. This has been going on for a while.
Because at least right now, there isn't the stated goal of keeping people there, but just keeping them there in the intermediate term. We all know where this is going, but it does make it a little more difficult to use that term.
The Trump administration has a habit of suing the press. This has already had a chilling effect. See CBS, BBC, and I think ABC as well. They have decided that it does not make sense financially to fight it, and there are probably a number of lawyers much smarter than I who know what they're talking about. And since most major news sources are profit-driven and public broadcasting is chronically underfunded, that's all you get.
The word "concentration camp" often gets confused with the word "death camp", and we have failed to properly differentiate. How often do you hear about the Nazi concentration camps where they killed people on an industrial scale. No, those were death camps (they had concentration camps as well). But the term has been used wrongly for so long that when people hear "concentration camp", they think "death camp", so calling it a concentration camp, while correct, could make a fair number of people think the wrong thing - as of now, there is no systematic extermination, and I hope we get a handle on this before it gets that far.
Because everything is on fire all at once, people are scared/exhausted/lack any actual leadership (Fuck you Schumer) and when that happens people hunker down, until something so atrocious happens it breaks through the fog of fear.
Couple that with every major media company being owned by facist Trump Cronies and well… yea
And before some asshat starts going “Then why don’t you do something?” Look out your front door. You willing to go murder your neighbor right now? Because that’s what it’ll come to, a massive civil war. So yeah, nothing is happening yet but the rumbles are there and we are all fucked no matter the outcome.
Quite so. Everyone lambasting Americans right now seems to forget it was the rest of the world that had to come save the Germans from the Nazis.
"yet"
Just as a thought exercise, can you fathom and put into words a hypothetical breaking point that would wake people up to the madness around them?
Because here's my prediction: the regime will commit atrocity after atrocity, each one somehow more monstrous than the last, and nothing will happen, because your first paragraph will still be true. They will start wars and nothing will happen because your first paragraph will still be true. Then suddenly WWIII will happen and the regime will be unstoppable. Then, some manner of nuclear exchange, potentially marking the end of human civilization, because all fascist regimes end up destroying themselves -- too bad this one has the power to take the entire fucking world down with it.
If you are right that Americans won't fight for decency now (and I think you are), then all hope is lost. All historical precedent says that we are past the point of no return and you've forfeited your - and quite possibly humanity's - future.
Because everything is on fire all at once, people are scared/exhausted/lack any actual leadership (Fuck you Schumer)
According to him, the people are "aroused".
Wtaf? Please tell me this is some ai bullshit….
Fucking aroused? That’s insanity. We aren’t aroused, you fuck face, we’re pissed. And some of it is dorected at you, Chuck!
He's meaning "aroused" in the dictionary sense, aka "Brought to a state of great psychological tension."
However, it'd be nice if the dude was at least aware enough to know that it sounds very much like he's downplaying the situation for one, and secondly, even though some Americans might know the dictionary definition of "aroused" doesn't necessarily mean it's about someone that has a boner...many do not.
I mean, exactly. Like I get that he doesn’t mean sexually or having a boner but I would have the same complaint if he used maybe… excited. It’s just a horrible word choice and to your point, does not meet the moment. Downplaying the fascist takeover, ice goons murdering and kidnapping people.
WE DO CONSIDER IT AN EMERGENCY
DEMOCRATS ARE SHITTING THE BED
ALL WE HAVE IS VIOLENCE TO STOP IT
✊ RESIST ✊ RETALIATE ✊ RISE ✊
I've been calling them concentration camps the whole time. It's obvious that's what they are. Fuck the media outlets.
Anyone else just really impressed by how well “the boys” tv show predicted all this?
No, because I can't shake the feeling that I'll be watching a documentary in a decade or two and learn that these Nazis took multiple ideas from works of fiction meant to be a warning.
This was all predicted in The Newsroom 14 years ago. That was the start of media enshittification.
It was also predicted in House of Cards, where social media could be used to influence any opinion in the USA.
Oh there is a national emergency.
Their emergency is "threats to national security" such as foreign-born non-whites like me, cuz half of the country doesn't care about constitutional violations and authoritarianism
Every major media outlet is controlled by someone that is a member of the Epstein club.
And daily reminder for everyone: just because they caught Epstein doesn't mean this sort of shit stopped. It just passed to new management.
because at the national level it’s not an emergency. it’s the plan all along.
it’s a human emergency and the leaders need nuremberg trials.
but from all sides of the aisles it’s not at all an emergency to them.
Because America is the Greatest Country in the World, and the beacon of freedom and democracy. A beacon of freedom and democracy wouldn't build vast concentration camps, therefore we cannot acknowledge that that's what America is doing. We need to keep acting like Trump's biggest failings are liking fast food and stumbling over words.
and because big money controls the news agencies.
and Americans live a month of horrors every fucking week under Trump, both last term and this one.
and average americans are too poor to deal with their own personal healthcare needs
Or to buy food.
Who are facing very real possibility of being murdered in the streets for daring to speak up, and even if they dont get murdered today, its always been openly bragged about that facial recognition is being used to build vast databases of anyone who dare protest der fuhrer so that they might have to face the horror of some time, months down the road, gestapo thugs could kick in their door and send their underage daughters to oligarchal service camps while the rest of them are, at best, dumped in hostile countries or at worst disappeared and executed.
and despite all that, people are still fighting in the streets. People are still confronting this. They are doing everything they can, while NOT giving trump the excuse he needs to masturbate furiously over his war president fantasies by triggering civil war 2 and ordering the military in to purge everyone who doesnt share his every opinion.
But you keep sitting there, serving your masters agenda of trying to paint the opposition as lazy, and feckless, who are doing nothing more than making fun of what he eats.
It easily reveals who you really are, and what your real goals are.
Yeah, 100%. Just one little clarification. Once they are done with whatever they are going to do to those brown people, they aren't going to close the camps and shrink their wealthy agency, they'll just alter their mission...
Which will be slavery. The 13th Amendment allows prisoners to be used as slave labor, and PeeWee Himmler and Trump can't wait to get into the slavery business. Imagine how supercharged the economy and the stock market will be, when 90% of the labor force can be replaced by AI, Robotics, or Federally-managed Slave Labor?
Except this time, they aren't going to racist about it, the Federal government will be an equal opportunity enslaver. Anybody is welcome, all you have to do is be a political critic, or a Democrat, or even a MAGA, if you aren't rich enough. The only ones who will be safe from enslavement will be Sociopathic Oligarchs and their Nepo-Babies.
Here we thought the Mexicans, et al, were going to take all our jobs, when in reality it will be Official Government Slaves.
They've literally openly talked about, for over a year, about wanting to send all the sick and mentally ill to "work farms"
and what are they trying desperately to say is a mental illness? Opposing trump.
Not only are people dying inside the camps (as the article correctly points out), but after they are deported as well:
Or they are offloaded to prisons that are notorios for human rights abuses:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/08/americas/el-salvador-cecot-prison-deportees
If everything is a national emergency, nothing is.
I am appalled at how well "flood the zone" and "move fast and break things" works to destroy a nation. If sanity ever returns, the response to either action needs to be the death penalty. I don't know how to properly write a law for that, but it is clear to me that any lesser response will only cause the bastard to back up, and try again.
The ground work for this was set up long before the bull arrived at the China shop.
Remember the reason he can run roughshod over everything is because Congress and the courts are not doing everything.
Edit: anything
Cause he has 70 million supporters. And the army. And ICE. And has captured federal institutions.
Because the majority of people in the US still think this won't directly affect them.
Had my dad literally and unironically say "yeah but that stuff isn't going to matter to us cuz we live in a small town, there's only trouble in the big cities."
My father in christ what do you think will happen if the single grocery store in your small town doesn't get shipments anymore from the "big city"? Idk. They just think everything can crumble around them but they'll be untouched.
With nationwide injunctions forbidden people could be thrown in without habeous corpus and disappeared and there would be no way to stop them. They could stymie and challenge any court cases filed, they could drag out the proceedings, challenge standing, they could move the person around, and not tell anyone.
With the nationwide injunctions they would only be able to get a week or two grabbing people without cause, or hearings. Now the could keep it up indefinitely, each person having to seek relief themselves, if the administration allows them, and each at the mercy of the district they are in.
That decision was a huge betrayal, and we are at the mercy of the worst people in the world and will suffer irreparable harm before we will get a chance to challenge lawless government action, and our media didn't see it, or tell us about it when they did, even media I like. Just further goes to show we have all the wrong people in charge.
That dude in the picture be like….