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The community dedicated to boycotting the US until they stop fascism, restore full democracy and start following international law.
Americans have a moral obligation to resist Donald Trump and project 2025 at every turn.
America is a flawed democracy currently being ruled by oligarchs. Stop the backslide! Dont let America become the next Hungary.
America needs to challenge the court rulings of citizens united v. fec and shelby county v. holder, protect the media, implement independent district drawing, and the single transferable vote so they don't end up having people stay home in life-changing elections because they cannot vote for their favourite candidate.
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Well. In Germany we say "Der Markt regelt das". Translated: economy speaks for itself.
Like it or Not. China made it. They will also flood Europe/EU soon. I'm not mad, when they can, they should. This is our beloved capitalism.
One German politician warned car companies that they need to make affordable EV. They didn't listen and still don't.
The problem is China subsidizing their cars to suffocate the European manufacturers. When all the European manufactures are closed or sold to China, you'll see the real prices.
EDIT: Also, soon? They are already here.
Yes. I'm aware that they subsidize the shit out of a lot of stuff. They saw the chance and took it. Of course, I'd like to see European cars, as that also means workplaces and plus for our economy.
For a greater time we already compete a lot with Japanese and Korean cars - I mean they build good cars. But in the end it seems more fair. And for what I know is that they also do very good options on the EV market - but will hardly compete with BYD or Xiaomi vehicles.
The dealership system is garbage. Let the battle begin.
Say what you will, but I'll take BYD over Tesla any day.
My "fear" with the Tesla system is customer service after the sale. Usually a local dealer will have to consider repeat sale and after-market service and repair. Building a good customer relation is key to that. Alternative is am anonymous underpaid call center "drone" in another country or dead email drops that never gets answered. Or worse some kind of AI chat feature on a glossy professional web page.
My issue with all electric cars is the development rate and the risk of platforms not being supported for an extended time. How long will software be serviced? Right now I do not dare own an electric car older than five years as there are so many bugs due to rushed development
Shitty dealerships thrive, what are you talking about? They don't give a fuck about customer relationship, they just say that in their radio commercials.
Maybe American autodealers should've made cheaper cars and not relied on monopoly-like status and government protections manipulating the market.
Also, maybe American's shouldn't have been such cunts to their neighbours. I mean, they throw a big Trump diaper at Canada and Mexico, start demanding all the car companies shut down plants and shit, wtf did they expect Canada and Mexico to do exactly?
Good. No one should buy American trash.
its also overpriced, and the handles trying temulate tesla is a very big turnoff, as well as a safety issues.
I don't disagree about our cars being overpriced, so fair point there.
I used to own a Tesla Model 3 (I got rid of it for reasons you can probably guess), though, and the one thing everyone - including me at the time - universally disliked was the handles, inside and out. For the outside half, there were several times I struggled to get in during cold weather. For the inside I never had a problem with them but I understand how they could be difficult (my wife printed stickers to make ours more clear).
I know the outside ones are supposedly more aerodynamic; neither are as bad as how some people represent them ... But everyone hated them.
I suspect you were trying to troll, in which case I almost want to apologize for interfering but can't bring myself to, but if you're being earnest I feel I should offer some input.
The lack of purely mechanical interior handles in the back seat is the most egregious offense. Sure, technically they exist but 95% of Tesla owners probably aren't aware.
For context, there are easily accessible (though sort-of hidden) handles in the front, but in the back they're steel cables underneath the liner in the door pockets. Back seat passengers just burn in a fire I guess.
Why are dealers complaining? Could they not simply deal those Chinese EVs?
I'd expect US automakers to complain, but unrightfully so, because their products are inferior.
A- 10,000 dollar car
B- 50,000 dollar car
Intrest is 5-15% (depending on credit score)
6 years loan
Interest paid over loan:
5% A- $1,595 B- $7,977
15% A- $5,224 B- $26,122
If the dealership sells a 50k car they can get 6.5k-21k more money than if they sell a 10k car.
They want to sell you the most expensive car they can
So even if they could sell you the "cheap" Chinese EVs they would make less profit
This is just one reason. Sales margin is another. When you're a Ford dealership and get special treatment from Ford you have higher profit margins. If you just flip a Chinese EV with no special treatment you have lower margins.
If there was a solid 10k car available less people would buy the 50k car (average cost of a new car today)
Inexpensive cars on the US market is not good for dealerships in anyway
dealerships are too scummy and a little racist to POC potential buyers to be allowed to exist anyways, i dont think anyone would lose any sleep if they were to disappear suddenly.
Why are dealers complaining? Could they not simply deal those Chinese EVs?
One word: tariffs. Sure, they could theoretically still sell Chinese EVs, but with the tariff nonsense the buyer would have to pay more.
Fuck car dealers. The entire dealer system has spent most of a century earning worse than this.
Good. Eat shit.
You guys had your chance. Instead you shoved giant fucking trucks and SUVs down our throats while telling us we didn't want good, small, electric cars. I hope you all choke to death.
I... I was trying to disagree. But you're making it damn difficult.
Maybe they can eat a dick.
No, don’t reward bad behavior. They can eat Trumps unwashed asshole.
As an American...
Say it louder for those in the back.
Senator Bernie Moreno is a car dealer. It's weird to open the article with his position on this and not mention that.
Our national neighbors to the north have already caved, setting off alarm bells in some U.S. operations, and now NADA is hoping to amplify that warning.
Fuck off you Yankee cunts. Go fuck yourself through both ears with a rusty chainsaw.
"Caved"!? You mean "are purchasing higher quality vehicles for lower prices" means "caving" these days?
Seriously. Fuck all the way off.
Apparently "capitalism" and "market pressure" only work when it's in the USA's favour? The USA should be proud of Canada for acting exactly like capitalists! They are opening the market and letting the best suited and best priced item win. Isn't that the whole point of the system?
lol if the US dealer system is part of what dies in this era of shit that we’re in, I’m calling that as a fucking HUGE silver lining.
European fllet and personal buyers are starting to turn away from US cars. Not impressively, but a little.
Europeans are purchasing American cars? Why? We aren’t even purchasing American cars in the US.
Because maga stupidity is spreading. Here's a big fuckin stupid American truck in Norway, it can barely fit down the fuckin roads in Lofoten but sure enough, dipshits need to stroke their ego with their oversized gender affirming trucks.
An rock slide starts with just but a pebble.
The car dealer lobby can go fuck themselves. How much cheaper would cars be already with no middle man using high pressure sales tactics