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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-arrests-new-orleans-police-recruit-accused-of-being-in-us-illegally/ar-AA1VBfsD

The New Orleans Police Department responded to the DHS statement with its own statement following the arrest of Temah:

Recent statements regarding Recruit Larry Temah are misleading. The New Orleans Police Department verified Mr. Temah’s employment eligibility through ICE’s E-Verify system prior to hiring and was never notified of any ICE detainer. New Orleans is not a sanctuary city, and NOPD does not control jail operations or detainer decisions, which fall under the Sheriff’s Office. Any claim that NOPD knowingly violated the law is false.
Officer Reese Harper (NOPD Director of Communications)
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[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 134 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's a pig-eat-pig world out there.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Dogs as always, are good boys.

[–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is it “pig-eat-pig world”? I always thought it was “piggy pig world”.

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[–] waggz@programming.dev 89 points 1 month ago (4 children)

In case you fail to read the article or statement above, they claim to have used ICEs own system to verify his eligibility. the incompetency has no bounds.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 104 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's not incompetency. Incompetency assumes you tried in good faith to do something the right way.

What ICE is doing is just trying to piss people off enough to be scared for their lives. They ARE accomplishing that task.

Did they cross reference this guys identity, and verify he was a citizen? No, but that was never their intent.

They aren't incompetent. They're malicious. Intentionally evil.

[–] Red_October@piefed.world 28 points 1 month ago

They held of the skin color swatch and determined he was in the "Arrest and deport" range. That's all they feel they need.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago

Well going for a cop isn't going to help them is it? If the cops and ICE end up shooting each other I think most people will consider that to be a fairly acceptable outcome.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And likely part of the grand plan. This only stokes the flames of civil unrest so some authoritarian fascist can blindly enact marshall law

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 month ago

ICEs own system

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 24 points 1 month ago

thier eligibity is just a skin color card, like in family guy how to identify non-whites.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago

Funny, cause there literally isn't a database of citizens so whatever they are using is some janky homegrown palantir bullshit.

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"ICE arrests black man for existing while black." There, fixed the headline.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Excuse me sir, do you have any idea how Black you were driving just now?"

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 month ago

“Considering that has been the fifth time today and we haven’t hit noon. I would say very black.”

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Real brave of New Orleans PR putting out a statement defending themselves while completely ignoring their officer. No mention of their confidence in him - or denying that he's a "Criminal illegal alien having no place in our community." Fucking pussies.

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Call the police union and see how little fucks they give

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

It's the South. I'm surprised they said anything about the incident at all.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

Kidnapping a police officer is a bold move. In the interest of compliance with rules, I sincerely hope that this trend of LARPer vs. LEO will not continue until there is a predictable and unfunny consequence.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And the response of the police department of course is literally "ey, we did our due diligence, it's not our fault if he's illegal" instead of "GET YOUR FUCKING GRUBBY NAZI CLAWS OF MY EMPLOYEES YOU ORANGE FUCK!"

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 13 points 1 month ago

ACAB. Any cops that do not act to remove the fascists from power are complicit and should be brought before a people's court for their complicity in crimes against humanity after we have taken back control from the pedophilic elites they serve.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But why would your employees have fucking grubby Nazi claws?

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Cuz they're all cops.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

This is inception levels of blue lives matter getting canceled out by Black Lives Matter.

Must be sad when you have to stoop down to this level and still can jumpstart that civil war so you can cancel elections.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You know what, in person I have a hard time being nasty even to people who are acting shitty... but this is the internet and I have a cold too so I'm feeling very detatched so fuck it, I look forward to the first full on shootout between cops and ice, fuck em both.

[–] OshagHennessey@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No matter who loses, we'll all win

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

I love you like this. Hope you get better soon though. But keep that fire!

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I literally said this yesterday, after watching the Police intervene in the illegal arrest of a Meidas reporter.

I'm waiting for a shoot out between ICE and Police and scrolled and found this article.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I understand black communities need black, local cops, but I'll never understand a person of color choosing to be a cop. The institution literally starts as slave catchers.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kids grow up wanting to make a difference as cops like every other emergency service.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago

No one is immune to copaganda

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Policing is a necessary function of civil society. We need good cops and good law enforcement policy. ICE is not that.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Fuck the police.

I want well-regulated militias pls

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Crazy how civilization managed for literally thousands of years without cops

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[–] FE80@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The institution literally starts as slave catchers.

Let's not forget the strike busting, worker beating historical elements.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 month ago

If ONLY there was SOMETHING Cops could do to People who Break the Law! OH WELL! Go abduct ANOTHER Office ICE!

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sooo fucking funny. ACAB anyway, so no problems there, let them fight each other

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[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My brother in Christ should receive a legitimate offer compensation for this little fuck up. I would be willing to take this case, waive my fee & work pro boner on this case of gross incompetence. I swear, those ice fucks have 2 brain cells & they’re both fighting for third place.

[–] Cokes@feddit.org 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not sure if "pro boner" is Intentional or not... 🤔

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair, I do have a boner for justice and worker rights.

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[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ll just wave my boner. I sure wish I could practice law in New Orleans. One thing kept me from passing the bar exam in the state of Mississippi. That thing is integrity.

[–] Cokes@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Still not sure if you're serious, but using "boner" instead of "bono" as a legal term might have something to do with not passing the BAR.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I like to watch certain videos pro boner.

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[–] modus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm really conflicted on this one.

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[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

This probably should have been "New Orleans cop arrests ICE and calling them illegal" to see what the response would be to that.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Welp. I guess we're addressing the police problem? We did it?

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