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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 215 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If we emptied the account of every rich asshole like this we would achieve the same thing AND lose a whole class of dickbags that think they should be in charge.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 85 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The top 25 US billionaires could pay off US debt. Not even every billionaire. They total about 3 trillion net worth.

That's ignoring say the $60 billion or so Apple has in cash and who knows what other companies have

[–] BillSchofield@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

"As of January 2026, the total U.S. national debt has exceeded $38.5 trillion. This figure represents the total money borrowed by the federal government to cover annual deficits, which is growing rapidly, with a rise of over $2 trillion in 2025 alone."

I definitely want to tax the hell out of the rich, but we are in a deep hole. A long term systemic change will serve us better (or in addition to) talking all of their money now.

[–] sahin@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This debt is not important dude. You can pay any debt that is taken with your own money. You just cant pay if your debt is in other types, like gold silver or other currencies.
They created this system intentionally, so that they wont tax the rich and they make us poorer by printing money, and they have an excuse for stupid things.
The only problem with paying this debt, is people starts to distrust us dollar around the world, which is what they should do. I checked, and 100% of the debt is in USD. So, the govn can pay it right away.

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

So, the govn can pay it right away.

No offense but i think you should learn a bit about more about economics, specifically about how currency works. Long story short, if a currency loses a lot of value in comparison to other currencies, the 'local' system collapses. So the very important task of a government (or its central bank really) is to keep it's relative value high (not too high, but that's a story for another day. The us gov (or the Federal Reserve in this case) would fail very very hard if they would decide to create 38 trillion usd. It is especially problematic considering the financial problems that it would cause are on top of all the other shit that's going on.

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[–] legion02@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Having that debt played a big part in the US gaining the soft power that it used to have. Long term I'm not sure we'd even want to eliminate that debt but maybe target to keep it near the inflation rate.

Basically "if you owe the bank a dollar you have a problem. If you owe the bank a billion dollars the bank has a problem" but extended out to international scale. If your roi depended on the US being sound and successful you'll take steps to ensure that outcome.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Adding $3 trillion in GDP would not remove the debt anyway. Assholes like this one don't even understand how GDP is calculated nor what it means.

[–] BabyVi@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Mfs legit think GDP stands for Gross Domestic Profit.

[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re not a team player, are you? Work more and work harder. For the team. /s

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

It's beautifully wrong on so many levels.

  1. Increasing GDP doesn't address the debt crisis.
  2. The debt is WAY bigger than 3 trillion
  3. As long as Trump is in office, the debt will grow, and nothing can be done to change that.
[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 48 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Doctors I trust more than Doctor Oz, Doctor Phil, or RFK Jr.

Doc Brown

Doc Hollywood

Doctor Bombay

Doctor Claw

Doctor Demento

Doctor Detroit

Doctor Dirty

Doctor Dolittle

Doctor Doofenshmirtz aka Dr. D or just “Doof”

Doctor Doom

Doctor Evil

Doctor Feelgood

Doctor Frankenstein

Doctor Hannibal Lecter

Doctor Horrible

Doctor Jekyll

Doctor Leonard H. "Bones" McCoy

Doctor Martens

Doctor Moreau

Doctor Nick

Doctor Otto Octavius

Doctor Pepper

Doctor Scholl's

Doctor Orin Scrivello

Doctor Seuss

Doctor Spaceman

Doctor Spock

Doctor Strange

Doctor Strangelove

Doctor Who

Doctor Zhivago

Doctor Zoidberg

Dr. Dre

Dr. Enuf

Dr. Tran

Rug Doctor

Even Nurse Ratchet

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You monster, you forgot Doctor Girlfriend

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Even Nurse Ratchet

I'm convinced she's a Deputy Secretary at HHS somewhere in the Trump org chart.

Dr. Tran

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[–] karashta@piefed.social 43 points 3 weeks ago

Or we could stop lying about what the national debt is and tax the wealthy to destroy their absurd power.

https://mmt101.substack.com/p/mmt-basics-national-debt-defined

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

Or we could make it illegal to be a billionaire.

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

“Please stay in the corporate meat grinder so we can have enough money to fuck kids then bomb them”

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

We’re constantly more productive and never see a reduction in work hours, only more work. You bring this up to one of these fucks or their simps and they say “sure, but when will the work get done?” as if that comment makes even the slightest amount of sense.

The very first thing we all need to do is stop working so hard. The rich don’t have any real skills and they have no power without the people they exploit.

[–] CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Sure but if we pay off the full debt our FICO credit score will go down. You gotta carry a balance nowadays.

[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Just as a heads up, you dont need to carry a balance and be charged interest - you can pay off your cards each month never paying interest and still have an improved score, simply pay the statement balance before the due date

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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 29 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That's not how national debt works you absolute ladle.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Garbage people produce garbage ideas.

Why not pay off the debt by reducing military spending by 90% for the next thirty years. We would still be in the top three countries for military spending.

This shitty idea is a thousand times better than anything Oz could come up with.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or if we tax billionaires and corporations…

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The thing is that he's right, but will these sleazy fucks do anything to actually make it happen? Well let's see what they're to implement...

  • A universal healthcare system so Americans are healthier and less stressed? Nope
  • Free college so Americans can start their careers as efficiently as possible? Nope
  • Free universal daycare for all American parents so they could focus on their careers without being to stressed about where to take their kids? Nope
  • Raising the minimum wage to something livable so people don't depend on government programs? Nope
  • Investing in public transport so people can more reliably commute to work and find new jobs? Nope
  • Strengthening worker rights to ensure that workers are taken care of, thus ensuring their longevity and productivity? Nope
  • Passing union friendly policies while prosecuting union busting businesses to make sure American workers feel their hard work isn't being taken advantage of? Nope
  • Regulating hazardous workplace conditions to ensure the safety of workers? Nope

So what they fuck do they mean by this? They clearly don't care about the debt or the well being of Americans since they're not willing to do anything about either. No, what they want are results without any of the work needed to achieve it. They're not looking for a more productive economy, they're looking for slaves.

[–] French75@slrpnk.net 25 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The thing is that he’s right

He's not right. The national debt is way fuckin bigger than 3 trillion. He's also wrong in presuming that an infusion of productivity (tax revenue) can "solve" intentional over-spending. He's just a serial scammer spouting uninformed nonsense to stay relevant.

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 13 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Alternatively, actually tax the top 10% at the 37% tax rate for everything earned above $600k, and let the working class try to enjoy a little life, with healthcare coverage.

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[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Did I fuckin miss something? We are 30 trillion in debt.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

That's what happens when you give the richest people tax breaks and subsidise all your rich buddies endevours without uplifting the lowest socio-economic portions if society.

The best way to fix the economy is always to give the poorest more money (or less financial burden) because they spend a much higher percentage (usually all) of their excess income to keep afloat or improve their way of life.

The worst way is to give rich people more money. Because they horde it, gamble on non tangible goods (stocks, crypto, "ai" etc), send it off shore, keep it in the family and share it with other rich people etc.

It's ironic that the party that always does the worse thing for the economy and demonises doing the best is seen by the masses as the "good for the economy" party.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

universal health care would accomplish the same thing

more worker more healthy better economy

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fucking ghoul. Thanks Oprah for making him famous.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Name one person uplifted by Oprah that's not a fucking ghoul.

Dr Oz, "Dr" Phil, John of God, each more evil than the last.

At least Dr Oz is legitimately a good heart surgeon. If that's all he ever did he'd have been a net positive on the world. As it is, he's caused far more harm to more people than he ever helped.

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[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

That would more than remove the debt.

No it wouldn't! They'd just create even more debt, and then try to tell people that, if they'd start working earlier, and keep working later, and work harder, then..... they could create even MORE debt.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Sell yourself to indentured servitude at 18 and work until you're found dead by the janitor. Your corporate masters need a new Ferrari!

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Instead of trying to extend the prole's work life by a couple years, we COULD tax billion-dollar companies and their owners by 2% more and make three times as much money!

But we can't! Sorry. Our hands are tied

Also, can't afford minimum wage increase this year, the budget is tight

Oh! Almost forgot! We need a raise of 10% this year, and it's time for our winter break! After winter break, it's spring break. Then we will come back to "work" to pass more important legislation, right before our summer break.

You don't get breaks every year? Damn. Well, life is not fair what can we do later gator

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is going to be so great for the Rich People's Pedo Island Money.

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[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

Fresh out of highschool? Wtf... Are kids really not getting jobs while still going to highschool anymore...

We were getting jobs as soon as law allowed us.

Am I out of touch or is this guy just an extreme privileged cunt?

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He's super out of touch, I had a part time job when I was 15 at a Dairy Queen. And as far as I'm aware, that's still pretty common.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Two of the three points he made are total horseshit, but let's not throw out that last one:

If we could get the average American to ~~start working a year earlier, right out of high school, or a year later --not retire -- or~~ work better during their lifetime because they're healthy, it would generate about $3 trillion to the US economy.

Universal Health Care fucking now.

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Their fucking hubris is almost unbelievable

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

So when do you start doing actual work, Oz?

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

as an aside - Read somewhere that this argument that the government can't afford all of these things like healthcare, infrastructure, etc. that would help most people is bullshit. Since the federal government prints it's own money there is nothing that it can't afford. We spent 3 - 8 trillion on the Afghanistan and Iraq wars alone. And when people argue that it will increase inflation - sure maybe, but if you tax wealthy people more it can cover part or all of the newly printed money.

Note: I'm a bit of an idiot about this stuff - so this article could be completely off base and I just wouldn't know.

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[–] morto@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If necromancy was a thing, they would make us work even after dying

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[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)
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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

I don't want to hear about national debt from a politician ever again. Doge fixed it all, were doing great. Kindly fuck off.

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's so hard to understand why people don't want to have kids

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The plan is to physically destroy yourself to fix an entirely imaginary problem.

The ‘National Debt’ is merely the cumulative tally of money that nation’s government has ‘spent’ into, and not yet taxed out of, existence. It imposes no tangible burden, and believing it does helps the owning class convince the uninitiated to choose and work against their own interests.

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[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

‘Work better during their lifetime because they’re healthy’ is actually the way forward.

But of course it’s mentioned last because the first two proposals are a lot cheaper and faster.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately our work doesn't go towards the debt. It goes to making the rich richer.

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