Often during meetings a new comrade will bring up why we run services to help people if we could be helping people who are racist/homophobic, etc. One of my comrades in my group wanted to discuss something just between us so I set time aside for it.

This discussion was essentially; "Why don't we create a apartheid like state where queers receive decent human rights and straights and cis people aren't allowed."(not a quote) Likening it to a commune. There are so many issues with this I could write a book about it. The land that would need to be taken, the heavy surveillance people would have to face to confirm queer status, the argument of who qualifies as queer, is being therian enough, is transitioning mandated, the oppression of an entire demographic of people, most of whom never got the opportunity to be educated within America's oppressively poor education system, ETC.

But one thing that reflects yours, the previous point, and theirs is that there are people who do need help that will fall out of your arbitrary lines. There are bourgeoisie trans people, and gays and lesbians that exploit others to the same degree. Being part of a minority often gives you a chance to better understand these issues and educate yourself but its not guaranteed. There's a well known (in revolution groups) transwomen in my area who hates leftists and volunteers to infiltrate and spy on leftist groups for state security.

The sentiment here is falling back into chauvinism and I understand the sentiment (I'm a transwomen), but you will not find an effective solidarity among any particular group but the working class. Oppressing one group does not make things "equal". You're coming into power and instead of using that power to deconstruct contradictions of capitalism and fight against it you're appropriating it for your own use.

That being said, I'm all for just trying to house trans people with your available assets. I am currently living in a situation where i often house trans people who's leases were up or homeless in my area to help them get on their feet. I do this for free because I can. It doesn't mean you have to do the same thing, circumstances are different.

I try to see ethics in terms of what real-world harm or good comes from an action, so I definitely get where you're coming from with this. Would the outcome of this be to cause people more harm than otherwise, or would the overall all outcome improve things for at least some people? And on that note, one thing to be careful about is if this idea would actually work. If it doesn't work out for whatever reason, would the fallout cause people more harm than if you never went through with it in the first place? What's the risk of something like that happening?

Sounds like if this saves at least some trans people without making anyone else worse off, it could a positive thing overall, but figuring out how to make it work as intended would be the hard part. Also, I'm sorry the world we live in is so depressing and I hope you're doing ok.

One more thing, if we're talking about participating in capitalism to help comrades out, I have a few unhinged chud-targeted "business ideas" I'd love to share with the world.

I don't blame you. Idk the logistics, and I hate the idea of being a slumlord even assuming you don't mean it in the negligent/absentee landlord sense. But you're already doing more than I'm capable of right now, and it's getting so bad out there. If you have a good chance to make it work, to make anything work that will help stem the tide of trans people ending up on the street or in restrictive/unwelcoming shelters, go for it. And honestly, reading this is making me reconsider some things about what I need/want to be doing.

Obviously I'm a communist through and through, but why should I care about others outside the community when many cis people clearly aren't in the position materially to even begin to think about communism, let alone trans inclusive communism?

Being a communist isn't some identity you can pick out of a hat after you've read enough books, it's a practice, and the entire mindset here betrays a complete lack of practice. Liberation demands that we find and work hard to build movements that include us and cis people, it's cishet and queer solidarity that will eventually deliver the goods.

If this is how you feel, you need to organize. If you're already organizing and this is how you feel where you live, you need to find somewhere new to organize. You don't fight white capitalism with black capitalism, and you don't fight cishet capitalism with rainbow capitalism. Organize, you'll meet the most wonderful people you've ever met.

abusing your power as a landlord to benefit people you like at the expense of others is the best way to build socialism.

Libs are ok with slum landlords and rainbow capitalism. You aren't doing anything they'd disagree with.

I am subject to discrimination so I will become a slumlord and exploit poor people

Like you realize the WASP nuclear family is probably the least likely demographic to be renting, right?

Obviously I'm a communist through and through

Obviously not

It is wholly impossible to be both a slumlord and a communist.

That's not to say that communists need to be wearing a barrel with suspenders and drink water out of a drain, but being a landlord is a uniquely scummy thing to do. Most of the people who end up in shitty housing do so because they're desperate and have no other choice, they are most likely going to be queer people kicked out of their homes, the disabled, the neurodivergent, people of color, undocumented migrants, and so on. You're not going to get a conga line of cis white male chuds to skim off the top of. Society is setup specifically so they're the least likely to end up there.

This isn't to scold you, I don't know what's in your heart. You're right that you're going through a bout of misanthropy, and this way lies ruin. If you're fine with exploiting the people named above as long as they're cis then you're cutting yourself off from solidarity. I would recommend becoming an ancap at that point. Because why pay taxes to provide public services to cis people, or pay union dues to a union that mostly benefits cis people, and so on. And if the conditions are going to be indeed scummy and exploitative as you'd imagine them then if your tenants rent-strike then every leftist will be on the side of the tenants. Because again, by becoming a landlord you cut yourself off from solidarity.

This is the ultimate trick that capitalism plays on you. To convince you that a better world isn't coming any time soon so in the meantime you might as well become the exploiter rather than the exploited. But capitalism can only perpetuate itself through exploiters, however you might try to rationalise it. I'm not saying you need to forgive cisciety, fuck it, but solidarity is how we build a better world.

Also, you missed your timing, all the housing was bought up by Blackrock. You might want to get a finance degree and defraud people's savings accounts instead.

90%-ish of all demos have bad and reactionary opinions about other demos, particularly if you live in the imperial core. If taking personal revenge at substantial personal risk is the right approach to this, then you're basically just saying to be adventurist by going after a given demo. Given the depth to which reactionary thought has been entrenched through false consciousness, you would also surely end up targeting other oppressed people disproportionately if your bar becomes the extent to which a given demo is transphobic, homophobic, islamophobic, etc.

Being overly focused on a person's basic traits re: gender, sexuality, race, ethnicity, etc, which are all categories with this same dynamic, is actually a false consciousness in yourself as well. The harm caused to trans people is real, and so is transphobia, and so is the preponderant of transphobia among cis people. But you are falling into a trap of false consciousness, in part due to the fact that, as you know, there is no such thing as perfect transdar. You will harm trans people with your guesswork. And you will become essentialist in your thinking.

And if you're a socialist talking about doing socialist things, your project has to be focused on changing society itself through organizing, not individualistic landlordism. Today is the height of trans liberation in the imperial core. There has been literally no better time to be organizing for trans liberation.

i'm neurodivergent but feel similarly. let me know if you ever find a way to nip that growing misanthropy.

though you do have the opportunity to house people in vulnerability while paying for that by landlording some libs. that would be pretty based, and a force for good.

there are entire orgs trying to do that, don't let ideological purity stop you.

I genuinely think 90% of cis breeders hate their trans kids in some way and actively make their lives harder, even the lib ‘accepting’ ones.

Some of the shittiest people I've run into have been cis lib 'allies' with trans kids. Not because they're actively attacking you, but because they will insist on taking up space in trans spaces and often refuse to back down when you point out why something they're doing or have said is wrong or harmful.

At the same time I've run into cis people who are actually willing to throw down and so I can't write them all off.

I’m like 60% of the way to thinking ‘yeah I’m gonna be a terrible slumlord for cis people so I can make trans people live better lives, I’ll house them for free by taking money from the cis by being an exploitative landlord’.

lmao critical support

I think it helps to imagine everyone as an egg. Or at least has the ability to be an egg.

Or, sometimes I think "What if cis people aren't lying, and actually like the gender they were assigned at birth?" What if cis people are real? I just don't "get" being cis. This sort of thinking makes me empathize with cis people who are just generally confused about what we're talking about.

but why should I care about others outside the community when many cis people clearly aren’t in the position materially to even begin to think about communism

You know how anti-trans laws inevitably end up hurting gender non-conforming cis people as well? Well, if you start discriminating against cis people, you'll inevitably end up hurting trans people, too. Either because you're hurting an egg, or maybe you're hurting someone that's stealth. Or you might hurt a cis person that a trans person loves or depends on (We live in a society!!!!!!)

using this logic, why should we care about anyone in the imperial core

Are all the cis people you plan to exploit going to be able bodied white men?

Lol

Lmao even

Real. They don't care about our material needs at all. Fuck them. I cannot escape the misanthropy either.

Fwiw I do think your landlording idea is bad for, if nothing else, practical reasons.

Terminal /tttt/ brain