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Brilliant!
Remember when they unveiled "the plan" many years ago? Huge stacks of paper, it looked very comprehensive indeed.
Of course, all the pages were blank. IT WAS TOP SECRET, YOU SEE, INVISIBLE INK!
Now, I'm wondering what was on the other 20K pages after the "$2000 credit a year" page. That was invisible. Eight years ago? Ten? I hate it here
Even if the government gives us $20,000 to buy health insurance, premiums will likely increase by $20,000.
Bingo. Socializing profits or whatever this is called…”neoliberalism” “private public partnerships” is exactly what destroyed everything good about western society.
Now now, why would you only increase it by the amount the government will give you, you clearly dont have what it takes to be a CEO. If everyone would get 20k. Increase the price to 25k
How can there still RELATIVELY many people be able to have kids financially? The fertility rate in most european countries in comparison is lower, although we have affordable healthcare (well compared to the US at least).
Why do you think they're trying to shut down reproductive rights? They want people to have kids despite financial capability to raise them. As long as they survive growing up, they'll labor.
And be raised by parents who don't have any financial independence, ensuring they're also in debt slavery for the rest of their lives.
Things feel so dystopian that I get the feeling that after they get everyone on debt slavery that they'll put propaganda about how it's unfair that debt is absolved on death and that your family/kids should pay for it. Fox News will be like: "why should a company's debts just disappear? it's unfair to the lender!"
Hey, someone is going to have to do all those below-subsistence jobs that the deported immigrants have been doing.
My dudes, we have nothing to lose but our chains
Thanks Trump! /s
This is just a roundabout way of subsidizing the health insurance industry while making his base think he actually did something for them.
Every subsidy that goes to a person basically is a roundabout way to fund an industry. Even tax write offs are. Like a mortgage interest rate deduction just helps banks and the real estate industry, not the people buying a house. The write off pushes housing prices up, since the banks can give out slightly higher mortgages to borrowers and the market adjusts to the bigger inflow of cash and supply doesn’t increase faster. If the write off didn’t exist people could borrow less but houses would cost less as well. This basically happened in my country the Netherlands. Nobody benefited from the introduction of the mortgage interest deduction except the banks and people who already owned a home when the policy was introduced.
No that's the ACA. This is just peanuts.
Isn't that basically universal basic income?
If he does it the proper way yes, but it'll probably be something stupid and strictly controlled to be only insurance
Also ignoring the fact that even if it was $2000 annually no strings attached that still does little, though it would certainly be welcome
Health insurance would magically become $2k more expensive overnight, so
I mean, it takes minimum 150k per year to raise a family in the US, so that tracks.
Trump used to support a Canadian-style, single-payer health care plan. However, the closer he got to the presidency, the more he backed away from that. Funny how that works.
Wait... when the government gives people money... that sounds like... SOCIALISM.
This is to point out his hypocrisy, not even to note that this is a stupid way of distributing money (it just goes into the hands of middle men) and only intends to generate some good sounding news instead of actually solving a problem
I can't tell if this is sarcastic, but I'll respond the same way regardless.
This is not socialism. Government provided social programs or financial assistance are a basic function of governance. Virtually every government on Earth does this, whether democratic, authoritarian, or communist.
I think they're playing by the conservative alarmists' definition of 'socialism.'
I would have to agree.
Adding $660,000,000,000 to the federal deficit annually and still not making a dent in people's healthcare costs?
A single-payer universal healthcare system would be cheaper, as almost every other country's systems show.
The real trick is to get private equity and for-profit corporations out of healthcare. All they do is drive up costs while lowering outcomes.
Healthcare should be a public service, funded by the government.
Yeah, the US actually pays more PUBLIC funds per person than most other nations. Then the private cost on top - all for worse health outcomes.
We need more Luigis just from a financial perspective.
holy shit is it really 26000?? that's more than what i pay in tax every year in europe. (granted i am poor but)
the US already spends more public funds in healthcare per capita than every country with free healthcare.
on top of that, we pay a shit ton extra for insurance, then a shit ton more in copays/deductibles, plus a shit ton more because something isn't included....
you could lower taxes by thousands and give everyone free healthcare.
the US healthcare is nothing but a massive scam. the kind where the perpetators kill tens of thousands per year and rake in endless money. there's no justification besides rich people like being rich, even if it means killing thousands of innocents. in any civilized world those executives should be tortured to death.
You guys need a lot more Italian plumbers...
why? they didn't do anything, Luigi was with me that day
It was like 500-600 a month for two people a decade ago but the insurance plans on the exchange have gone up in price about a 100 monthly, every year. But they also dissappear after getting too high, so there are increasingly fewer plans from new or small providers. This year it's 1200 monthly. These plans were actually quite good though compared to regular plans people get from their employer, with 0 copay and 0 deductible. For low income people on the exchange it cost them 0-100$ monthly for them, and the subsidies covered the entire plan cost up to around 1000$ a month. So last year you could have excellent health coverage for 50 dollars a month, but no longer.
The big problem of course was that without the universal mandate, the whole obamacare plan didn't really work long term because the cost kept going up without any of the parts to keep that price down because of the Supreme court.
In other news most countries only pay 3 to 5% of their income for universal healthcare but sure we’ll see how Pedo Care works out for Americans
He just wants another excuse to send individuals checks with his name on it. Could be a good opportunity to virtue signal as well if the plan winds up being exclusionary toward singles or other groups.
The health insurance plans will just raise their prices by another $2000
Oh wow! In switzerland there is immense political pressure beause health insurance is very expensive.
I pay 6300 per year.
Typical NYC slumlord style: "Free first months rent."
I looked at an apartment once which was the upstairs of a house. Dogs had eaten large chunks out of the bedroom doors and there were two giant piles of dog shit left in the kitchen. The owner was enormous and unable to climb stairs so she hadn't seen the state of the place after the previous tenants had moved out. After I told her what the situation was, she said if I cleaned it up myself she would knock off $200 ... from the security deposit. Get fucked.
Is he really just replacing like 6k+ valued ACA subsidies with 2k in subsidies that are implemented more stupidly
This plus the 50 year mortgages and I'm starting to feel relieved I'll probably die before the real aftermath of this shit hits.
Republican healthcare plan can be sum up as "get fucked and die you dirty peasant".
Why does the health insurance industry even exist?
That's a question Americans are prevented from having because it would offend Ayn Rand or something.
