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They utterly trashed their OS, a globally ~dominant cash cow, at an astonishing pace. By completely, eagerly (forcibly!) jumping the gun on exciting new tech, maybe the single above-all "thing you never do with anything even like a cash cow of any shape or size".
As in, that is known - viscerally, below the level of words or even thought, as if that knowledge originates from another realm - by anyone who has ever actually been directly responsible for any valuable piece of technology.
The depth of ignorance and really just flat-out juvenile naivety (fueled by naked greed) that produced this is something I'll probably be thinking about for the rest of my life. Truly amazing, just historically, I mean mythically foolish.
This dude has been locked into this outcome for a long time, and it's getting increasingly obvious how disastrous it is.
There are no dances left for him to perform except "it's really not that bad!"
I mean if it auto generates the summary and all by just opening a word documents then yeah it's being "used" but human in the chair is just ignoring that as another bloat
I just uninstalled my outlook becauss of forced copilot garbage and forcing me to the cloud when I just wanted to open a pdf. I was enraged and now I am done with all microslop garbage. I used to have an annual subscription too.
No, they're not. 90% of the "use" is them forcing it on us.
I just tried using my voice to call my son on the phone, and Co-Pilot answered, explained what it could do for me, and finally made the call. It took at least 5 times longer than usual to just dial a number. I didn't ask for Co-Pilot, I barely can stand the old way, this new one really, really sucks, and again, I didn't ask for this, it forced itself on my life.
Fuck this AI shit, complicating everything just so some CEOs can rationalize their stupid bonuses.
I edited my registry to disable it.
Copilot is such trash. Used it with my daughters project on Amerigo Vespucci. Copilot linked me to Christopher Columbus' journeys. Gemini linked me to the actual information and even in Geminis own search results, the Microsoft one was wrong.
I hated using AI but come on. If you are going to destroy the planet micro slop, at least do it well.
Man this guy looks like a husk of curses.
OS takes a screenshot every five seconds. CEO: "Damn, look how much it is being used!" /s
I just rebuilt my Win 11 Pro Workstation setup (yes, it is the version for stupidly high core and thread counts), and one of the first things I did was to bodily eviscerate anything AI in the system. Right after gleefully ripping out all the telemetry and spyware.
You stopped a bit short on your delete spree I guess.
But then again, I don't know your workflow and needs; so I'm glad it works for you.
You stopped a bit short on your delete spree I guess.
No, that was just the first two steps. Just on the “rip shit out” category, I typically churn through at least three separate tools, usually in this order:
- Win10Privacy
- Win11Debloat
- Winslop
I mean, sure, Windows can take as little as a half hour to “install”. But on a personal rig (which also includes my own workflow software and personal data shoehorned back into place), I take another 24-48 hours to gleefully beat it into submission and install secondary programs that bypass the warts it has acquired over the years.
And as a benchmark, XP needed only about 6-8hrs of extra work to reach the same threshold of data migration, workflow software, and improved usability (I was an NT fanboy, IMO the primary improvement of XP over 2000 was the start menu).
If we add up the AI push, the spyware/telemetry explosion, the recent attempts to force the use of a Microsoft Account as the default login, and the massive bloating and instability of Windows in general, it’s slowly becoming time for even non-technical, everyday users to move to Linux.
(eh, the sardonic joke I read was: ya stopped short of deleting Windows)
Well yeah, you rename a core product to Copilot and suddenly you have tons of users
They have like 7 different, separate, copilots 😆
You mean Word, Excel, and so on...
Money for old rope-pilot
I use the office apps for college and I avoid the AI, its annoying, it pops up and im usually saying " wtf is this" no i need a blank document
Yeah cause when I instinctively click the Microsoft learn link below the Azure error it takes me to copilot instead of documentation.
People are using AI a lot, or people were already using programs with recently added AI features a lot?
Day 1: We have 1 million Excel users.
Day 2: we added Copilot to Excel, we have 1 million new CoPilot users!
I see you know corporate math well
One of my bosses was screen sharing with me this week and had co-pilot up in Excel. I don't know what he was doing with it. he started fucking around with it while he was screen sharing, just doing something unrelated to what we were talking about. I know he was just trying to bait me into asking what was going on.
fuck that, I don't care, I know you love your AI, I don't give a shit, it's not useful for what I do and I don't want to talk about how it can almost do something kind of right
I love/hate that this is a common experience. Someone did this to me too, although this was sort of a work friend taking the piss.
I have straight up backhandedly implied people senior to me who get paid 5x more than I do are throwing any possible expertise they might have out of the window. To their face. My stance on these slop extruders is well known among my colleagues.
I’ve even told people who used them in front of me, in a gentle but unflinching way, that their willingness to use them uncritically is a red flag for me and that comparing my genuine work to general machine output is something I can’t simply decide not to take as an insult. Including people who are supposed to review my work. As a professional I have to do something that exceeds the first page of Google in specificity. I do the long yards. Why is that suddenly a problem? If our work was this simple why are we getting paid to do it?
Some of these people trust me enough that they’re getting queasy about the whole AI thing after initially giving in. Yeah it’s decent at summarizing mass emails from corporate. Summarizing mass emails from corporate is not our fucking job. At least two people were paid subscribers to OpenAI’s product and no longer pay for chatbots. Proselytizing against the death of critical thinking is not a lost cause.
I have to get the fuck out of corporate.
Isn't Copilot integrated with the Windows taskbar search?
I think the sole reason Copilot is used at all is because they've forced it in applications it has no place in, and requires it remain on by default.
Yea, sure. They're unwilling "active users" because they accidentally click on some copilot garbage that's been shoved into every inch of Windows. While I see plenty of folks using various AI tools, none of those tools are copilot.
Ohh, that would be all the developers at jobs with daily AI use quotas running scheduled scripts to make it look like they are using AI.
This is literally just wasting electricity to justify the existence of massive datacenters full of nvidia videocards.
I ask copilot bullshit that I don’t even read sometimes just so it looks like I’m using ai more. Because my employer demands it and will start tracking AI usage for perf evals!
Great system we have going, here.
Create a loop of copilot talking with itself using the copilot CLI 😉
Didn't they add copilot to notepad, to the file Explorer, to windows I assume as a non removable service (internet explorer anyone?), and to who knows how many more places?
Whatever metrics they claim to have are for sure not inflated. /s
If people are indeed using copilot a lot then great: good for you, please shut up, you don't need me on-board.
Yeah, this smells a lot like Texas Sharpshooting. Figure out what people use, stuff Copilot in there then proudly present the target that you drew after hitting something.
Because they keep cramming it in all my apps at work and every time I load my email, it tries to open Copilot?
Yeah, MS Teams (not my choice) had a pop-up that said that in order for a meeting to be recorded, I needed to accept that my video and what I say will be used by Microsoft for various purposes including training copilot.
So, that counts as me using copilot, right? /s
edit: A word
I have it on my work laptop, because unfortunately my company bought into the hype. Every once in a while I ask it how to do a thing, just to see if it will help. So far copilot has been wrong 100% of the time.
I have to give it this much respect: When I logged in to office.com (for work) recently and was confronted with the Copilot chat-box, I asked it how to disable Copilot. It was honest, and told me that it's not possible because this is Microsoft's new product strategy. Then, I asked how I could never see Copilot again.
It (no joke!) told me to install Linux.
Probably GitHub Copilot.
The rest just sucks.
And are these people using Microsoft’s Copilot AI a lot in the room with us now, Satya?
Yeah, by accident.
