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“Very, very senior” officials in the Trump administration have had secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists trying to shake the foundations of the country. The covert meetings between high-ranking U.S. officials and the Alberta Prosperity Project come as a widening rift appears between Canadian leadership and the White House. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney used a speech in Davos, Switzerland, last week to call out President Trump for creating a “rupture” in the existing world order.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How is this not an act of war?

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My guess is the actual answer is something like

"Because we all do it a little, we just pretend nobody knows and we're not stupid enough to get caught like these guys lmao."

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Man these separatist extremists are duuumb

You NEVER work together with trump because he WILL fuck you over the second you turn your back.

I mean, fuck these assholes, dump them in jail and all, but their choice to do this with the Cheeto is just so dumb

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump and his administration are a dumpster fire. Countries should just cut all contact at this point.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah about that, we're kinda stuck with them.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Not engaging/ignoring would be the best course of action honestly. Obviously there has to be some communication, but the more you can limit this the better. Canada should be doing everything it can to get away from the US.

Why do you think the US gets upset when Canada talks to China about trade? They are counting on keeping Canada isolated. I was absolutely floored to hear Carney say that garbage about slaves or happy vassals. That type of talk isn't candor, it is resignation.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 95 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I heckin' HATE the Alberta Prosperity Project! If we ever went "independent" we'd get Venezuela'd immediately!

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 76 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Alberta wouldn't ever be "independent." At best they would basically get annexed by the US, same way Russia took Crimea, claiming that the presence of separatists justified their actions.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's the STRATEGY.

Thank you for making it explicit.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I feel like it's a safe assumption more Americans in border states want to join Canada than the other way around.

I think even Cali would told it came to a vote and they'd already gained terrority adjacent to Cali thru the Pacific Northwest

That would be a true death low to the American Empire, without Cali we'd be fucked.

It would never happen, but it'd be worth Canada to hype it up just because if trump has to play defense, he just stops playing the game and starts a new one. That's whY the whole TACO thing is, but because someone on social media made up a buzzword, no one really understands what's happening

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[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 78 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The far-right international coordination must be crushed.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Canada is smarter than America, they will deal with this decisively. It's one think to be a big dickhead online, screaming for revolution. It's a whole other thing to be meeting with representatives of a hostile government who has made many threats of invasion. That's fucking treason, and Canada should deal with it right the fuck NOW, and send a clear message to future traitors. Don't wait to see if it gets worse, like we do here in America, deal with it preemptively.

[–] Kaz@lemmy.org 11 points 2 days ago

100% treason right there

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 52 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What's it going to take for Canada to start you know viewing this as treason from certain people? Cuz it's absolutely treason.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yup, needs to be shut down and them charged, and then you'll see a US temper tantrum, which just proves what they were up to.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

If Canada takes a page out of America's book then there could be an actual violent insurrection and masked federal agents executing Canadians and they still won't view it as treason.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I live in the treasonous province and I'll tell you most people in Edmonton at least are real Canadians and not fascists.

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No one here wants this. It's an incredibly small minority of morons and nothing will ever come of it. It's just a bunch of noise because our premier is a piece of dog shit. She will be gone come next election, if she lasts until then.

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

From your lips to God's ears, gentle Albertan. I'm out in Ontario and get wildly different takes on how "serious" the Separatist movement is. Some people report is as you say, some say it's "gaining traction". Highly suspect sources go further, claiming the idea is popular. Even screening out Post Media, there are journalists reporting it as a "very real threat due to institutional support in the Premier's office".

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Thats what we thought back in 2015 when Trump first ran for president in the U.S.. Now look at us.

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago
[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago (12 children)

What a fucking menace. Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country? They are making themselfes the common, lifelong enemy of many, many groups of people.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country?

Like Venezuela?

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Like the U.S.?

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They did that, but still don't actually control the country. Mostly because they're fucking morons.

The CIA usually holds their own competence in higher regard than reality does. All because Hollywood, and Tankies, think the CIA is magical or some shit.

They're more like a small child with a machine gun, especially under Trump. You have to question how they got it, and how many people will get hurt, and you can be fairly sure nothing constructive will come out of it.

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[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes, they (MAGA) do think they can do that. Their sense of entitlement and lack of empathy are boundless. The U.S. is going rogue, we are in the run up to WWIII, and I am not being hyperbolic. The rest (non-MAGA) aren't paying attention, can't see what they don't want to believe, or, like me, are horrified, terrified, and making plans to get out of dodge before the shit hits the fan.

On the positive side, the U.S. is strongly teeing up financial collapse, which will likely hit towards the end of this year (maybe mid to late October?) Look at what gold is doing. It's the biggest gold bull market of all time, already eclipsing the 1981 peak that came from the stagflation era following Nixon's removal of the gold standard, and that's even adjusted for inflation. The U.S. is running a ~6% budget deficit, consumer confidence is crashing, a leading indicator of a recession, ~1/3 of the U.S.' $38 trillion in debt comes due and will have to be rolled over in a higher interest rate environment and at a time where the world is divesting of U.S. debt, and Trump gets to appoint a lackey as Chair of the Fed in May. You can 100% bet on the fact that the Fed is going to have to buy treasuries (i.e., print money) to cover the debt, which will devalue the currency boost inflation, and destroy the dollar. The Fed will also juice rates. We'll have a boom in stocks with a blow-off top that will make the 1929 crash look quaint. There will be massive business failures, bank runs, and complete chaos, with a good chance of civil war (we're already in a "cold" civil war, somewhat analogous to The Troubles.) Accordingly, I don't see the conquest of Canada as likely before the situation collapses in on itself. However, if MAGA emerges from the chaos with its grip on power intact, god help us all (and I'm an atheist.)

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[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I’d say California should hold a referendum to join Canada in response, but then I discovered California’s economy alone has 4.3 trillion GDP compared to all of Canada’s 2.6 trillion. Amazing that the average Canadian still has better access to healthcare 😅

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I bet that if California had universal healthcare, the GDP would skyrocket. Healthy people are productive people. Ditto for doing free education, genuine anti-corruption, and...(goes on)

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

What? If the country looks after the population, the population will look after the country? That would never work! You know, except for the various countries where it provably does work..

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[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So tit-for-tat being fair play, sounds like Canada can kidnap and imprison Trump.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Thank you, I just daydreamed this for a moment. That was nice.

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why the fuck does this administration think they can just buy countries?? Like where tf is all this coming from?

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

An asshole who was taught his whole life that he can buy whatever he wants and do whatever he wants without consequence was shat into office.

It's just a continuation

[–] C4551E@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 days ago

and thus far, the world is still yet to prove otherwise

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, it seems that it is perfectly legal to abduct a country's president with military force and then put them on trial.
Care to help us out Canada?

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[–] froh42@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Would there be a way for Minnesota to leave the US and join Canada?

[–] uberfreeza@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"I'm joining the war against Canada on the side of Canada."

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago

Plenty of Americans would.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Installing violent juntas in South America is so 20th Century. Now we're installing violent juntas in North America.

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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (26 children)

The same thing they're doing in Europe. It's in their fucking manifesto or whatever, they're not even hiding it.

Thanks to all these Americunts, the fascism in Europe is accelerating.

The whole world needs Americunts to get their shit together.

"B-b-buT LoOk aT tHe rIsE oF fAsCiSm iN yOuR own EUrOpe" - Americunts

Yeah, it's rising thanks to the American government and American billionaires funding and encouraging the far-right fascists.

[–] Golden@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I remember watching brexit thinking "damn they really are that stupid?" only to see Trump elected here shortly after. The fascist slide didn't start here and when it takes over the rest of Europe we'll all be sitting here watching yall "handle it" with all that empty bravado

ETA: Americans are showing up in public in the tens of millions knowing our government and our next door neighbors are well-armed lunatics who would love to exercise their power over us at the drop of a hat. I, too, believed that since 99% of the people I talk to aren't fascists that we'd have the numbers and the resolve to do something, but we're still missing a key ingredient in getting everyone on the same page at the same time 

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is the "new world order" Alex Jones type psychos have pretended to be afraid of. Now that it's happening, they fucking love it because the reality was they just needed a scary story to attach to people they already hated. Now that the people they like are creating the new world order, they fucking love it. As long as they control the one world government, they'd love for that to happen.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

All y'all thought there was going to be a US Civil War, but it turns out the first shots are getting fired across the Alberta/Saskatchewan border.

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