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    submitted 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) by Lisk91@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     

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    [–] janus2@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 hour ago

    the closest thing Linux has to spying is the strictly opt-in Debian package popularity contest lol

    [–] comador@lemmy.world 25 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    Only Apple users think Apple isn't spying on them.

    And Apple users are about to realize with the new Apple AI aka Google Gemini that they ARE spying on them.

    [–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 hours ago

    Everyone who believes their big tech software doesnt spy as much as possible are naive fools

    But its almost impossible to avoid anyway

    So i can understand that a lot of people just dont care

    Myself included, though i do use linux, its not for privacy reasons. I just like linux better thqn windows.

    Work requires a mac, and github by microsoft. What you want me to do?

    [–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    No they won't. Apple users are either tech illiterate or sycophantic. They won't realize that the "year in review" is actually just a showcase of how much info they have on you.

    [–] James_Ryan@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Everything is just black and white…

    [–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Excuse me, tech illiterate and sycophantic are clearly shades of grey.

    [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 32 minutes ago

    Oh is Apple finally releasing different colors again? :p

    [–] yuriRO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 hours ago

    I mean spy only on the web? Android Google is like the most important piece of project in corporate surveillance and don't get me started on A-GPS

    [–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 79 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    Other people have already mentioned this, but Google absolutely spies on the whole OS when it makes the OS, either Android or Chrome OS, Google Play Services are spyware and also required for full Android functionality

    [–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 44 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    Should I pull the trigger on the Pixel 8 listing I've got up on eBay right now? My level of tech savvy is 'I installed Bazzite on my gaming laptop and it's mostly just worked', I think I should be fine with Graphene but...

    (Also, anyone know if Tuta is good? I'm looking for a replacement for Google calendar and Gmail and that seems to fit the bill.)

    [–] knomie@feddit.org 2 points 45 minutes ago

    Your tech level is more than sufficient. Just follow the install instructions on the official site.

    Tuta is alright. One of many good alternatives. Just try it out in parallel.

    [–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 1 points 26 minutes ago

    Biased answer but:

    • Tuta is good, free plan to try, 3 euros a month for the cheapest paid plan, they are supposedly adding a "cloud drive" to store some files
    • GrapheneOS is amazing, easy to install, you control all the permissions if you want, and it's the most plain and basic Android out there (they don't make decisions for you out of the box, it's the realest Android)
    [–] jim3692@discuss.online 47 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

    Google doesn't spy only the web. There are some pretty common and completely legal devices, that Google takes advantage of to spy in people's everyday life. Those devices are called Android phones.

    [–] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    Also acceptable:

    Linux: You guys have users?

    [–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    linux to apple: you think yours don't?

    [–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    I've seen a lot of people defend apple. I lowkey thing me talking bad about apple (and provide sources) on a privacy subreddit triggered someone enough to get my reddit account banned. That or badtalking apple is against reddit TOS.

    [–] JoShmoe@ani.social 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    Jokes on you! I know that Apple knows that I know they know.

    [–] Walican132@lemmy.today 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    Yeah Apple is pretty transparent about it and what they use it for (allegedly) haven’t really seen anything saying Apple is using more than they claim/say.

    Either way Linux is so much better.

    [–] JoShmoe@ani.social 3 points 5 hours ago

    Thanks legitimately random user!

    [–] bryndos@fedia.io 10 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

    Linux picks a random user out of the hat to prove it - gets someone using android with play services. erm . . . ignore them . . . that doesn't count.

    [–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 25 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

    That really loops back to Google more than a function of linux.

    [–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Just because it uses the Linux kernel doesn't mean it's real Linux. Google took everything that made Linux good - customisation, root access, privacy, freedom - out of Linux to make Android

    [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 6 hours ago

    A lot of that's still available in AOSP. The devices they actually sell just load a heap of commercial crap on top of that.

    [–] bryndos@fedia.io 4 points 6 hours ago

    Akshually, . . . copypaste . . . mostly google removed the GNU Scotsman.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

    That is the same kind of pedantry as claiming that ketchup is a smoothie because the tomato is a fruit.