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In the new book *The Art of Star Wars: The Acolyte, *a scene that has been long speculated about, but never confirmed to have existed, has been revealed: a kiss between protagonist Osha (Amandla Stenberg) and antagonist Qimir (Manny Jacinto).
A black witch teams up with a Sith to expose the hypocrisy and corruption of the Old Republic Jedi order. It's surprising this thing ever got made.
Along with Andor, this was a stab at Star Wars for grown ups and it's a shame they killed it.
It was canceled because it was bad.
Qimir was great and I think the big lightsaber fight is some of the best in live action star wars.
However, the story is horribly under developed and is full of nepotism. I don't care that the setting is a lesbian witch commune, I do care that the showrunner hired her wife, who's acting is so bad, I spent the first scenes she's in wondering how she got the job.
The trailers hyped Carrie-Anne Moss and positioned the show almost as a star war version of The Matrix type action, only to kill her character almost immediately.
Sol is incredibly creepy.
I recently rewatched it to see if I would come away with a different feeling, but no, I agree with most of this. I didn’t know about the nepotism, but that tracks.
Sol was the worst. His motivations were creepy, his emotional attachment and paternalism to Osha was unhealthy even for a non Jedi.
The more the story of Osha’s “kidnapping” was fleshed out, the more frustrating the whole thing became. Sol was selfish, presumptuous, and motivated by personal feelings.
The big lightsaber fight was devastating. It was incredible action and for sure some amazing cinematography, but
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killing all the padawans
was a huge swing that was a bit too blunt of a tonal switch for me. But I get why they did it, it had impact.
The only thing I would say is a lot of shows have rough first seasons. Even classics like Star Trek: TNG had an extremely uneven first season. Babylon 5 season 1 was pretty bad despite leading into probably the best 3 seasons of TV I've ever watched.
Exceptions like Heroes and Battlestar Galactica are rare.
The Acolyte has some rough edges but it seemed to promise a much better season 2.
Thing is, except for technically Babylon 5, which didn't really have that bad a season 1, shows that could recover were all episodic shows that didn't build on the story as it went along.
The Acolyte would have had to ass pull at levels that would make The Rise of Skywalker blush to fix that story. It was as expensive as a theatrical release and was losing them subscribers. It simply wasn't salvageable.
the showrunner hired her wife
Did not know that. Makes sense though, her acting was indeed atrocious.
Eh I think it’s less of any story quality but rather the show had a budget of a big screen theater and Disney is penny pinching so wants projects that are established or at least have a good long term vision.
Is that Jason Mendoza?
duuuuuuuuval!
Blake Bortles!
Jake... Jortles!
it was such a spoon fed show that I felt treated the audience like idiots with a plot you could see coming several miles away.
The writing was so lazy, as was the overall story arch. The flashback episode killed it for me. I was already ready to drop it, but hoping that there'd be something in there to keep me going. Nope. Nothing.
For all its flaws, the Book of Boba Fett kept me coming back each episode.
I'd rather watch the Holiday Special 8 times in a row.
I enjoyed the series. It was better than Ep 9 and BoBF and I thought it was better than Ahsoka, although that show started rough and ended pretty well so it's debatable.
Personally I found all of Ahsoka to be boring. Which sucks because it's probably one of the most important new things lore-wise. The whole going to a new galaxy was cool.
I didn't like how they pulled a Finding Nemo and a The Core in the same episode though. I thought that was just incredibly cheesy.
Ray Stevenson was absolutely great, though. Really sad to lose him.
Yes! Ashoka was completely whelming. We were so excited to see Rebels followed up but this was a big miss. Also did not like the characterization of Thrawn (he also looked like blue Elon 🤣). As an other commenter said though, Ray Stevenson was great and his character was interesting. I hope they can keep developing the character in the 2nd season.
I'm honestly surprised it's getting a second season.
Is this show any good?
You can easily see the money they put in right on the screen, although I didn't like the script, the dialogues and half of the acting.
Andor is vastly superior in every aspect.
If you need a story that holds your hand with a painfully obvious plot and wooden acting? yeah you might like it.
It started slow, but ended very well. If it had had a second season, I think it would be better reviewed. The ending pointing to issues within the Jedi order, which would likely have been a second season main theme, plus the detail of a mysterious sith we only got a brief glimpse of.
I think the main problem is they set a show with the core concept that the Sith were the good guys, actually, in what was meant to be the height of the Jedi. Then made the Jedi into a less competent version of the Keystone Cops.
It should have been set in an alternate universe or at least in the far future of canon.
Or in the far far past. Doesn't this take place during Yoda's lifetime?
They were going with an idea too lore shaking to be done with the level of abandon they appeared to be doing it, and were doing it way too damn close to existing canon in the timeline to pull it off.
Like, I couldn't give less of a shit about that one Jedi council member being around something like 30 years before he was born.
But you can't put a baby born from the force that damn close to Anakin without fucking up part of the core lore of the setting, the prohecy.
You can't have Sith running around this blatantly when the Prequels have Jedi insisting they all died out and haven't been seen since long before this show's place in the timeline. They were obviously going for a cover up type thing, but the only way they could have reasonably pulled it off with how many people knew would be to kill off effectively everyone who doesn't appear in later canon.
Kotor does cool shit with deconstruction of the jedi and the sith, and it can do it without caring too much about canon due to being far far in the past. It also was far better written.
A lot of folks don't like it. That seems to be the prevailing opinion. I think if you enjoy Star Wars, it's more worth watching than some other options you have. It doesn't hold a candle to Star Wars at its best, but then very little does.
It's hard watching Jedi kinda be... dumb. But that's the Galaxy that George Lucas established.
Edit: dumb isn't exactly right but I'm trying to avoid spoilers. They aren't what we've come to think of as Jedi. They exhibit every behavior we've been told Jedi reject. Vanity and pride most of all.
That’s not controversial. And “finally” implies anyone was waiting for it.
a kiss between protagonist Osha (Amandla Stenberg) and antagonist Qimir (Manny Jacinto).
Boytles!
