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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 84 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Doing evil shit should have a social cost. We need to be boycotting and generally making the life difficult for any canadian company profiteering from trumpist fascism.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Exactly. If I shoplift a chocolate bar they will note it and I will eventually be called to court. But if they do shit that ruins cocoa production in West Africa they will still get their massive bonuses year end.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love the idea of boycotting these guys but I have no idea who they are.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Well they have an address on Wikipedia. Maybe if I was in Vancouver I'd go to all the coffeeshops in walking distance and ask the owners of they'd be up for putting up a poster saying Hootsuite supports ICE on the window. Maybe their suppliers want to know. Maybe their cleaners? Their landscapers? Costs can also be indirect...

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

“ICE is using social listening not to amplify one political aisle, but to better understand how they’re perceived; especially by audiences who may distrust them. They want to listen, build trust, and communicate more effectively as an agency that serves all Americans,”

LOL "distrust" is way too mild. More like abhor, hate, loathe... any acronym for hate would do.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You ever read a lie so brazen that you know for a fact the person that wrote it knew it sounded absurd and ran with it anyway?

[–] msage@programming.dev 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fascists do not only lie tactically, to “con” enemies or the masses. According to Finchelstein, fascists also lie as a matter of epistemological principle, since they view the truth as something created and enforced by violence, not as something to be discovered. Paradoxically, then, fascists’ lying has an element of honesty: a sincere and genuine rejection of the idea that their beliefs could ever be rationally proven or disproven, since they believe their beliefs are simply intuitively known to the select few destined for power, or conveyed by the leader or movement to the followers. However, as Finchelstein points out, and as Kahn-Harris’s and Leeb’s work help illuminate, fascists also lie for disingenuous, psychological reasons—that is, fascists lie as a mechanism of denial, to protect their consciences from awareness of what they are doing and to hide from “unspeakable truths” about themselves.

[–] juspie@piefed.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Very insightful! Thank you for this comment @msage@programming.dev

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was just quoting someone else, those were not my own words.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Sharing insightful shit deserves praise too, thanks for sharing friend

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

But yeah, they just want propaganda

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 days ago
[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

I never heard of them before and I want them to disappear and all their data evaporated.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 days ago

oh honey no...

[–] Atkat@leminal.space 6 points 2 days ago

Gross; Vancouver's where I keep my stuff!:( Like my cat and my body and my home. I don't want apologists like this in my city.

[–] jaselle@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Does anyone know if there will be a protest outside their offices? Seems like something we can do as Canadians to help.

[–] eightys3v3n@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

I don't see a way to contact Hootsuite on their website to complain.

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 29 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Hootsuite’s chief executive officer is Irina Novoselsky

I don’t suppose she might have Russian connections, hmmmm?

No, Hootsuite is just scummy all around.

They've previously been caught making people take unpaid internships.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

She is a capitalist following hers and her shareholders' interests. Her country of birth is immaterial in this decision. She'd tend to do the same if she was born in Canada, Denmark or Zimbabwe. As have numerous other business leaders in Canada. Their primary interest is getting return on their capital. If you look at it this way, her actions look completely rational.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Looks like they turned down a contact with ICE a few years ago under a different CEO but Irina Novoselsky accepted one last year and is now chasing more. Looks like the first was for 95k. Really who sells their soul and jeopardises the companies integrity for that. Tells you a lot.

I feel for the staff but it looks like the sales team was chasing this. I hope the measly sales bonus helps them sleep better.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's how it works. A CEO of a comany that they're not the controlling shareholder works for the major shareholders. Most major shareholders' primary goal is to continually increase the return on their investment. If the CEO doesn't do that, or another candidate convinces the shareholders she can do more, the CEO is replaced. It doesn't happen quarterly, it doesn't happen in every company, but it not happening is more of an exception than the rule. It's what CEOs are graded on. A recent obvious example of a bunch of those selling their souls is Big Tech going full support for Trump.

E: Been in large Canadian and American corporations for 15 years now. This is the best model I've seen that explains what I've seen inside. There are all sorts of exceptions and differences in degree but on the whole, it still has the best explanatory and predictive power according to my observations. YMMV

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Pre or post Soviet collapse, if pre why did she leave?

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] Cherry@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

Should no better but greedy traitors come on all colours and nationality. Promoting ICE is about as shameful as it gets.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pre or post Soviet collapse, if pre why did she leave?

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

No idea, only vaguely heard of the company myself. People are people everywhere and there are always people willing to sell the rest of us out for money. This company and it's officers should be held to account should it's support of ICE be tied to unlawful acts.

[–] humanoftheinternet@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But that doesn't fit the narrative though!

[–] foenix@lemmy.radio 8 points 2 days ago
[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Cancels Hootsuite and moves to Buffer.

More like Jackbootsuite.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You can't trust a illiterate proud boi.

Only good tech bro is a dead tech bro.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago