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[Stocks are] really not that important in the overall context of things, but I have some money invested, so that 's good for me, I guess." -NC Hispanic man

People voted for Trump because we thought we were going to get lower costs of living, to some degree at least, and everything has just increased in price. -GA Black man

So I have an EBT card, and it's a lot harder to prove certain things in order to qualify for that. So just little things like that, they all add up, and I think they need to focus on us more than other countries. -MI white man

At first him speaking his mind was refreshing and I saw him getting a lot accomplished, but then it just got mean and nasty and very unbecoming. And it just made me cringe and I just didn't like him anymore. -AZ white woman

Deportations were a thing he was talking about, just not to the extreme. I would say yes, I was surprised. -MI Black man

I thought the focus was going to be more on securing the border, focused on hardened criminals, not so much everyday folk. -MI white man

I think the ICE has a place in this country right now because of the influx of illegals, but I also think the ICE officers have not been adequately trained. -ME white woman

All the South Koreans, I believe, that were going to be the instructors and teach Americans how to do that job--we had this whole thing where they refused to come back, and now they're going to let AI and robots do the majority of jobs. -AZ Hispanic man

And I also feel like I liken it to 1936 Germany with the brown coats [sic]. And so, there has to be a better way to do this - ME white woman

I think he should take care of the US first instead of acquiring other countries. -AZ white woman

I couldn't believe that I was complicit in deportations and I felt horribly and cried a lot about it and everything. I guess I kind of knew, but refused to pay attention to it because it just seemed ridiculous in my head to think things could really go that way - MI Hispanic woman

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[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What we fail to understand is that it took each and every one of us a significant amount of time and effort to gain our political knowledge.

[–] SupFBI@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It helps if one is curious about how the world works. Many people, in my experience, are incurious in general.

[–] The_hypnic_jerk@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

It's not just curiosity, plenty of people are curious. It requires you to be confrontational with authority. "That's just how it is" is obviously not something that set well with any one of us here, but given different life circumstances you could be plenty curious of lots of things and never been confronted with any major contradictions that required you to question authority.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

I just listened to punk albums as a teenager and worked minimum wage retail. That's all it took for me.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Yes but the basic empathy that led us here is not easy to learn. Is it even possible to get people like this to care about anyone else?

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

While that's true, even before looking at political positions, there are just so many Americans that don't have even a fragment of empathy or care for human life (let alone any other form of life). It's a nation of misanthropes.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

It took a certain set of material conditions which drove us to care for things outside of ourselves. It is a different set for everyone to some degree, but these people are purely self interested and that will not change with access or exposure to "political knowledge." It won't be until some tragedy or existential experience personally impacts them that they begin on a path that will allow them to grow politically. This is precisely why no revolution will happen in the imperial core

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wish I could be as ignorant as these people. Seriously, how far detached from the workings of society do you need to be to make some of these statements? Does your entire current events knowledge come from what you heard on a three minute segment of your hometown news broadcast? Does the hardest part of your day consist of whether to lean to the right or to the left as you shit your pants sitting down?

Must be fucking nice.

[–] SweatySteven@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Does your entire current events knowledge come from what you heard on a three minute segment of your hometown news broadcast?

Yes, I have extended family like this.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

same. i didn't know it because I haven't seen any of them in 10 years or more but my mom came to visit a few months back and was telling me all about it.

she shockingly isn't one of them, even though she's basically an evangelical christian.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

Worse, it comes from a Facebook post reacting to the three-minute segment by some grouped named "REAL PATRIOTS ONLY"

[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Guy: I'm going to kill a million people.

Person: He doesn't really mean that.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago

Same guy weeks later, drenched in blood: I'm going to kill another 500,000 people

Person: How could we have known???

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago
[–] EveningCicada@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

An NYT 1922 classic:

But several reliable, well-informed sources confirmed the idea that Hitler's anti-Semitism was not so genuine or violent as it sounded, and that he was merely using anti-Semitic propaganda as a bait to catch masses of followers and keep them aroused, enthusiastic, and in line for the time when his organization is perfected and sufficiently powerful to be employed effectively for political purposes.

A sophisticated politician credited Hitler with peculiar political cleverness for laying emphasis and over-emphasis on anti-Semitism, saying: "You can't expect the masses to understand or appreciate your finer real aims. You must feed the masses with cruder morsels and ideas like anti-Semitism. It would be politically all wrong to tell them the truth about where you really are leading them."

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Also in 1922:

WHY WOULD AUNTIE PHÓ DO THAT? THEY JUST FUCKING SHOT HIM (with a brick fired from their arms to his car window okay nobody was actually hurt but Hitler was just giving a nice speech). SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT!

The left in 1922:

Yeah we just read this guy's book and think nazis are bad.

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 52 points 1 day ago
[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It should be clearer now than ever before that the Democratic strategy of reaching across the aisle is useless. You can't reason with these people because they didn't reason themselves into their positions to begin with. There's nothing you could do for these people or say to them that won't be outweighed by ten types of brain-poisoned propaganda within a week. If any of them change their politics it will be due to some inscrutable internal calculus, not anything you could reveal in a focus group and target.

Articles like this and the obvious futulity of this approach could be a good radicalization talking point for libs. Goes hand-in-hand with "why aren't Democrats running on any of the stuff that's popular with their own constituents?"

[–] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the Democratic Party (the politicians and the rich faction of people they actually represent) don’t actually want any of those things to happen. They would rather lose than do the right thing. Being in the opposition is easy for them, because the Republicans can do all of these things they don’t disagree with ideologically (but their voters do) and they can feign resistance in order to capture more PAC money. Their strategy is working: they will promise nothing and expect your vote regardless. If they win they will suddenly not have the power to reverse any changes fundamentally. If they lose they will throw up their hands and wait another few years to promise nothing and expect you to like it. They have been doing the same thing for decades and people still think that things will change

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

Agreed on everything. I'm saying we can help convince libs to agree with all that by pointing out what I mentioned in my initial comment.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely. This should prove--prove--that the American electorate is not voting based on policy. American elections, especially at the national level, are purely vibes based. The Democrats' sweaty triangulation and technocratic wonk proposals will never win them elections, because their vibes are rancidly bad and that is all that matters. Nobody is paying attention to your policies. Most people don't know what your policies are or even have policy preferences themselves.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

is not voting based on policy

I mean, if the democrats (or anyone, who cares) campaigned on something like a national rent freeze, or increasing the minimum wage, or medicare-for-all, or any other easy-to-understand policy that would benefit the overwhelming majority of American workers, then they just might. Instead it's all inscrutable bureaucratic tax credits and wonk shit.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago

The guy with the EBT card not realizing it's harder to use EBT because they've been focusing on domestic policy. Like he thinks EBT just started having a bunch of extra requirements because it wasn't getting any attention.

Real intellectual titans.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

At first him speaking his mind was refreshing and I saw him getting a lot accomplished, but then it just got mean and nasty and very unbecoming. And it just made me cringe and I just didn't like him anymore. -AZ white woman

Super alien concept to me to just be like: "i liked [leader's] personality without really giving a shit about what they were actually doing to people and the country. But now they're cringe so my political ideology, to the extent that it existed, has done a 180."

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

The funny thing is that if you told me a lib said that I would've believed you. They really have a lot in common.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

is it possible for text to cause a stroke? read this site and find out!

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

All the South Koreans, I believe, that were going to be the instructors and teach Americans how to do that job--we had this whole thing where they refused to come back, and now they're going to let AI and robots do the majority of jobs. -AZ Hispanic man

Literally reads like it's coming from meemaw

Also, amazing how the conservative mind holds onto things that the rest of us let go, and lets go of things the rest of us know are important

[–] sniper_culture@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what is the context of this odd lady head? I've seen it used before but I don't understand it.

One of the rioters from J6

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is she even referring to here? This one was so funny because I'm just baffled as to what she's even talking about.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think they're talking about the CHIPs act, and the TSMC plant they were talking about building before all the companies just invested that money into Chinese fabs and stock buybacks

E) I guess they're still building it, estimated to be done 28/29

[–] regul@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they're conflating the TSMC plant with the Hyundai plant where ICE arrested and deported the like 200 Koreans who were building it.

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[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

and I saw him getting a lot accomplished

Like what? I always see this comment, trump says it all the time too, but wtf is actually getting done? Reality means nothing anymore ig

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Killed lots of Gazans, gutted lots of Federal Agencies like Dept of Education and the CFPB, passed the Big Beautiful Bill, massively increased military and federal enforcement spending, cut taxes and regulations, invaded and attacked multiple other countries, his stupid tariff game

Every single one of these accomplishments is evil, and harmful to the average American, but he did accomplish things

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

He's hurting some of the right people in their eyes. Their issues are with the packaging and (maybe) getting a little sloppy with it.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago
[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I find it fascinating that some people just either don’t see the overlaps with so many villain tropes or pretend not to see it.

Obviously the phoney car salesman, loud mouth, televangelist/dictator wannabe, narcissistic baby, poorly mannered, sex offender, … is the bad guy. This should’ve been so painfully obvious since 2016.

There’s an endless stream of movies, books, comics,…and none of it set of any alarms?

[–] neo@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

Famously not an intellectual people

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

Who would have thought sticking my fingers into a deli slicer would result in pain?

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Confusing Nazi Germany and Joss Whedon TV shows.

[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

I'm surprised no one said "they still use seed oil at McDonald's."

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article has a horrible layout. I was going to copy the entire article to put put into a text editor to remove the distracting crap and the annoying colors. I got a surprise. A large part of the article isn't even text.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I had to transcribe the parts I quoted.

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