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[Stocks are] really not that important in the overall context of things, but I have some money invested, so that 's good for me, I guess." -NC Hispanic man

People voted for Trump because we thought we were going to get lower costs of living, to some degree at least, and everything has just increased in price. -GA Black man

So I have an EBT card, and it's a lot harder to prove certain things in order to qualify for that. So just little things like that, they all add up, and I think they need to focus on us more than other countries. -MI white man

At first him speaking his mind was refreshing and I saw him getting a lot accomplished, but then it just got mean and nasty and very unbecoming. And it just made me cringe and I just didn't like him anymore. -AZ white woman

Deportations were a thing he was talking about, just not to the extreme. I would say yes, I was surprised. -MI Black man

I thought the focus was going to be more on securing the border, focused on hardened criminals, not so much everyday folk. -MI white man

I think the ICE has a place in this country right now because of the influx of illegals, but I also think the ICE officers have not been adequately trained. -ME white woman

All the South Koreans, I believe, that were going to be the instructors and teach Americans how to do that job--we had this whole thing where they refused to come back, and now they're going to let AI and robots do the majority of jobs. -AZ Hispanic man

And I also feel like I liken it to 1936 Germany with the brown coats [sic]. And so, there has to be a better way to do this - ME white woman

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[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It should be clearer now than ever before that the Democratic strategy of reaching across the aisle is useless. You can't reason with these people because they didn't reason themselves into their positions to begin with. There's nothing you could do for these people or say to them that won't be outweighed by ten types of brain-poisoned propaganda within a week. If any of them change their politics it will be due to some inscrutable internal calculus, not anything you could reveal in a focus group and target.

Articles like this and the obvious futulity of this approach could be a good radicalization talking point for libs. Goes hand-in-hand with "why aren't Democrats running on any of the stuff that's popular with their own constituents?"

[–] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But the Democratic Party (the politicians and the rich faction of people they actually represent) don’t actually want any of those things to happen. They would rather lose than do the right thing. Being in the opposition is easy for them, because the Republicans can do all of these things they don’t disagree with ideologically (but their voters do) and they can feign resistance in order to capture more PAC money. Their strategy is working: they will promise nothing and expect your vote regardless. If they win they will suddenly not have the power to reverse any changes fundamentally. If they lose they will throw up their hands and wait another few years to promise nothing and expect you to like it. They have been doing the same thing for decades and people still think that things will change

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Agreed on everything. I'm saying we can help convince libs to agree with all that by pointing out what I mentioned in my initial comment.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely. This should prove--prove--that the American electorate is not voting based on policy. American elections, especially at the national level, are purely vibes based. The Democrats' sweaty triangulation and technocratic wonk proposals will never win them elections, because their vibes are rancidly bad and that is all that matters. Nobody is paying attention to your policies. Most people don't know what your policies are or even have policy preferences themselves.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

is not voting based on policy

I mean, if the democrats (or anyone, who cares) campaigned on something like a national rent freeze, or increasing the minimum wage, or medicare-for-all, or any other easy-to-understand policy that would benefit the overwhelming majority of American workers, then they just might. Instead it's all inscrutable bureaucratic tax credits and wonk shit.