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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

how about you do like literally anything

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I think he’s a good guy.

I think he’s not cut out for this moment. Or really, he might be if he had literally anyone that would back him. His own party is garbage.

He should have ran. The alternative feels like a set up from establishment democrats to set up another centrist.

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago

That's part of the problem, the establishment never planned to handle the current situation. No one is cut out for this moment that's in a position of power, it's just not something people think can happen so quickly.

They're basically blitzkrieging the political norms to grasp power all guard rails are destroyed and the courts are just those low wide speed bumps.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When moments count, democrats are years away.

We are on our own.

[–] Mendaz@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone gonna ask why https isn’t working for this site? It would be pretty brain dead to put any info into there, let alone visit it. lol

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Even with https your isp and others can still see you visited the site just not specific information. The register form for whatever the hell that is is indeed behind https connection.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 154 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Tim, call in the state troopers and NG to remove these MAGA NAZIS before they kill more people.

Minnesota YOU ARE UNDER ATTACK!

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 105 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I can promise you that Minnesotans know this.

Previously I was under the impression that Walz could unilaterally activate the NG without trump being able to federalize them I was wrong.

The state police are small and theres more than 3000 agents in Minneapolis. They are being provided instructions and intelligence from a PMC. This is a full fledged paramilitary.

The media, however, has completely ignored the fierce amount of civil disobedience and counter ICE actions going on. The problem is that ICE is ambushing victims, grabbing them and leaving.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Yeah it’s really hard as they drive up in unmarked cars and go. A lot of times the windows are tinted and you have seconds to react.

When they were in Chicago I’d try to look for trucks, SUVs, and minivans as those were the most likely to hold a lot of agents.

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[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (8 children)

At the risk of asking a stupid question. Is this really going to help now that Trump has demonstrated that his DOJ has the power to remove criminal investigations from a local level and reassign them to a federal level? Where they will then (Of course) refuse to even investigate let alone prosecute. Is there some other way to seek accountability right now? Or do we literally have to wait for the next administration to do anything with all the evidence being recorded right now?

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 7 points 21 hours ago

Take this with a grain of salt, because I'm not a lawyer nor am I in that space. I am simply quoting the content I heard from actual lawyers.

Trump has changed a lot of the legal world with his illegal acts. Prior to Trump, It used to be that federal court cases were often airtight. If you brought it up in federal court, it was expected both sides did their homework - all of it, every single detail. Because federal court cases were the defining "law of the land".

Well, during the Trump administration, his cronies have so many federal lawsuits on them, often half-ass and badly made, that it's creating a lot of deadlock on what is "the law of the land".

So is it going to help now? No.

Is it going to help later? Absolutely. If not the Federal Court, but when we do our own Nuremberg trials.

[–] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I read somewhere that the states can go after ICE agents if they break state law. IANAL but I think MN state lawyers are doing what they can.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

The challenge is that the DoJ is obstructing state justice and withholding evidence.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Make sure you store it on servers outside the United States, too.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

Hard copies

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What I want to see is people telling these ICE agents the truth.

Point out Trump's failing health, and that he might not even live long enough to finish his term. Show them that he has attacked anybody who could be his successor so the MAGA movement will collapse as soon as he's gone.

Let them know that they will be prosecuted like the guards for Hitler's concentration camps. Just following orders won't be any excuse. Even if they manage to avoid prison time, the fact they worked for ICE means that when Trump's out of office, nobody will ever hire them again. It doesn't matter if they were just doing it to feed their families, being a former ICE member will be seen like being a former member of the Gestapo, a mark of shame for their families for decades to come.

Tell them that hiding their faces isn't enough. Ask them if they fully trust every other ICE agent, or if ICE might have been infiltrated by protesters. Point out that their fellow agents have already screwed up and left behind lists of ICE agents when they've had to leave a place in a hurry. Tell them that with modern cameras it's just a matter of time before an unusual mole or the edges of a tattoo are enough to identify them.

Then tell them that there's only one way to salvage their reputations and their future career prospects, and that's to become whistle blowers.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

Nice story, but January 6th rioters were all eventually given a pass, and that's what the ICE clowns anticipate. Just following orders, etc.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They were...by Trump. He's gone in this scenario.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I know this is FUBAR, but I think its funny that the 2nd amendment actually exists for this exact reason of State's having their own militias that they can use, but of course they're not going to actually use it.

Walz is taking a zero confrontational approach, so he's defnitley at fault here, but state NGs haven't exactly been effective since before the 1940s.

If anyone remembers the University of Alabama desegragation fiasco, JFK federalized Alabama's national guard and essentially crippled what power the state governor had as a bunch of soldiers showed up to escort students and shove him aside.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Remain peaceful while armed thugs are killing you and dragging you away to camps! We'll be sitting here not doing anything to help you!"

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is the same bull shit energy you tell a kid who's getting bullied. "Don't worry, it'll get better in the future."

Delusional wishful thinking. There's no going back, things will never be the same even after the big beautiful obituary.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Or he could fucking prosecute them now...

I had a lot of hopes for Walz until he was in a position to actually do something. It makes sense now why the neoliberals threw him with Kamala.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 83 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It would be nice.... But I think we're running into politicians discovering that the American police state is above the law.

I don't think anyone wants to address the elephant in the room that even if the governor of a state had the balls to order state police to arrest ice agents, they wouldn't obey the order.

Cops in Minnesota have already released press statements that they side with "law enforcement", and you really can't prosecute anyone if you aren't able to detain them in the first place.

States need to start banning police fraternities and unions and firing any cop who isn't willing to follow the rule of law.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 27 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I'm not ready to write him off yet. He's walking a knife edge right now, and has to be careful. If he deploys the National Guard, or even the police, he's kicking off a Civil War, and that will give Trump all the rationalization he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act, or even Martial Law. Walz knows we have to keep a lid on things and stay totally on the side of Constitutional law, until after the Midterms.

I'm still holding out hope that he has a plan once he's done with being governor. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run for president.

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago

The DNC broke that man

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do the black panther Philly thing and arm yourselves

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