I absolutely love how afraid they are of a single poster who isn't even trolling. Cowbee is just explaining stuff in a Marxist framework and is a prolific poster. But they talk about Cowbee like he's a malign spirit or a virus. They talk about him like he's Howard from the for-profit online university.
Slop.
For posting all the anonymous reactionary bullshit that you can't post anywhere else.
Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.
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Rule 3: No sectarianism.
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Rule 5: No bigotry of any kind, including ironic bigotry.
Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.
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Throwback to my all-time favorite MeanwhileOnGrad comment:
Cowbee isn’t just another tankie. He knows his theory and will use it to dazzle you with bullshit.
Like they're so close to getting it, but the ideology is just way too strong (and comfortable) man...
Yep, I just thought it was funny, lol.
But they talk about Cowbee like he’s a malign spirit or a virus.
Cowbee has become Sigma from Mega Man X.

At this point we should create a
version of the medal emoji
. For when posters have posted hard enough to haunt the lib's minds.
Or at least a cute puppy ghost version
A spectre is haunting Lemmy.
There’s a weird phenomenon I have seen on the fediverse where posters complain about people responding to them with (usually minor) criticism as if their posts are personal property or something. It’s very bizarre behavior. If you’re throwing your opinion out into the void, others can and will respond. Often any pushback must mean you’re either MAGA or a foreign spy to these posters.
And it’s not like replies are always debate attempts either. Often when I respond to something it’s because I want the next guy thumbing through the thread to see a rebuttal or re-contextualization of the conversation because I know how much my view of the world has been influenced by random comments on the internet.
Personally I think lemmy is really cool and reminds me of a less shitty internet where there is more than a single allowed opinion per site/subreddit/platform. The calls for defederation just perpetuates the shitty internet we have now imo.
Oh this thread has a rare goat appearance!
"brigading" being a silly accusation example #9586473
Also:
And I cannot think of any better example of that than hexbear.net, which is why I am such a fan of either outright defederation if that is the only option, or at least making that instance opt-in rather than force it to be opt-out, which apparently seems to cause many people to flee us and go either back to Reddit or to Bluesky or whatever, hence opting out of the entire Threadiverse. Basically: either hexbear goes, or the newbie users do.
Uncritical support to hexbear for single-handedly driving away fragile 'apolitical' redditors from the entire platform.
Uncritical support to hexbear for single-handedly driving away fragile ‘apolitical’ redditors from the entire platform.
this is a godsend imo and that along make lemmy far superior to reddit.
The ghost of Joseph McCarthy haunts the minds of many Americans still...
Goat getting angry at blaze for having multiple accounts not interacting with mowg? But ml is the issue? Lololol
Goat really hates that Blaze debunks goat's massive lies. It really irritates the zio-nazi that facts disprove his echo chamber.

Thank you comrade Seal, very cool.
cowbee is sea-lioning? 
The people that would operation sea lion Greenland accuse the communists of sea lining, what is this 1938?
As someone who rips on libs all the time, I'm just frustrated that Cowbee gets all the ire 😤
It's probably because Cowbee cites sources and does research, whereas I'm just like "eat shit".
As comrade @RedSturgeon@hexbear.net said, what makes them most frustrated is simply not falling for their provocations. They can easily dismiss hostile and agressive actions mentally, but what truly gets under their skin is remaining reasonable and calm about it, as though their own provocations have no impact on you.
I try not to take cheap rhetorical wins either, taking their arguments at the most charitable and debunking them anyways, as that's more effective.
One of my new year's resolutions is to be more like you!
That's very sweet, comrade!

You are a far more patient person than I, and I thank you for your service 🫡
Thank you!

I don't mean to discredit your efforts, but if you really want to go under their skin you have to do so without denigrating them, just speaking facts. It will boil their blood because they know they have to lie to maintain their worldview or they have to remain willfully ignorant.
So of course they will do anything they can to target the users who cite the most sources and put the most effort into what they're doing. They might even genuinely believe Cowbee is a paid agent of CPC, because they can't think anyone would willingly spend so much effort into research and education, without being paid for it.
The thing is, they don't think they're lying. They think that if we were telling them the truth, this information would inevitably permeate the highest echelons of institutional media and academia. They operate under an epistemological framework where these institutions are cornerstone of reality, and any fact or historical occurrence they haven't acknowledged is suspect.
The idea that powerful ideologues of American imperialism like Alan Dershowitz and Larry Summers can wield their high positions at an institution like Harvard University to skew the trajectory of academics doesn't even enter their minds. They barely grasp the idea that there's a reason why people like Jeff Bezos would buy the Washington Post.
They might even genuinely believe Cowbee is a paid agent of CPC, because they can't think anyone would willingly spend so much effort into research and education, without being paid for it.
I've seen this accusation a few times, actually. Usually among those that can tell that I do know what I'm talking about for the most part, and that I do believe it as well. As cool as that would be, though, I'm not a CPC agent.
Open Stars' entire goal is to move people to PieFed, which has stronger censorship tools (such as not displaying replies publicly if a blocked user replies to someone, on Lemmy it only hides it for the blocker) and is ideologically anti-communist at a developer level. One of the ways they do that is by accusing Hex users of being "overt trolls," and therefore dismissable without evidence, and repeated unsubstantiated claims of me personally being a sealion. This is despite the fact that they've had my 3 accounts blocked for over a year, yet I'm still their go-to example.
such as not displaying replies publicly if a blocked user replies to someone
This is slightly wrong, it's not that it doesn't display it, it's that it completely drops the comment. The comment is never added to the instance's database. It also is never federated, which I believe has the result that if you are talking on a community on the same instance as the blocker, the comment never makes it to other instances.
ⓘ This user is suspected of being a cat. Please report any suspicious behavior.
Stuff like this is why I don't venture onto the wider fediverse for the most part (just a couple specific communities outside of Hexbear that I'm subbed to). It's just weird to see how much some people seeth over the tankie triad.
I think criticizing Russia, China, or North Korea is only bannable if you're also annoying.
skill issue
"Hexbear doesn't allow criticism of China!"
Meanwhile comrade Xiaohongshu getting a million upbears for their latest comment calling the CPC neoliberal.
Libs just cannot fathom that "Gyna auforitarian" is not good criticism and we don't allow shit criticism.
Libs just cannot fathom that “Gyna auforitarian” is not good criticism and we don’t allow shit criticism.
With how meaningless the word is when used in the way liberals use it, it's not even criticism at all, it's just name calling.
user being abusive towards users, transphobic, only there to throw slurs
Gets banned
it can only be because I was saying bad things about putin
@Cowbee@hexbear.net catching strays again...
Open Stars has had my accounts blocked for over a year and I still live 
Landlords hate this one simple trick!

Cowbee is like the nicest user on here. Interesting that they smeared him specifically, I guess otherwise people might actually read his posts on their merits and think that socialism is good or something, can't have that.
sea-lioning
How dare Cowbee not let me make up random shit without any evidence!
I do not think that all or even most Threadiverse instances should defederate from lemmy.ml, but on the other hand it would be extremely nice if just ONE instance would do so, which we could then share to people on Reddit as a nicer entry point for those more centrist-leaning users who are primarily people from the USA.
Won't someone PLEASE think of the North American centrists