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To be clear; everyone working in my government, particularly after today, is a Nazi, or someone who works for Nazis. Do you know what we call people who worked for the Nazis, in the Nazi government? Yes, that is correct, Nazis.

So Machado is certainly not gonna feel lonely on the list of people on my TV who are definitely Nazis.

Oh, was that too harsh? Are you feeling bad for the good career civil servants, working for the literal fucking Nazis, who I have just impuned? Cool, let's refer back to that part where I said I was surrounded by people who openly recognize that this is fascism, and ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY refuse to accept what that actually means.

We call people, who worked for the Nazi Party, in the Nazi government, Nazis. Nobody says "the Nazi government and the career civil servants who hated them but stayed."

"They'll just find someone else."

Then let them. "I took the job at the concentration camp because I was sure Hitler would find someone else" was not a good defense in court last time, and it won't be this time either.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 65 points 4 months ago (17 children)

We call people, who worked for the Nazi Party, in the Nazi government, Nazis.

I mean, do we? I'm don't think I'm convinced that every public school teacher in Germany from 1933 to 1945 was a Nazi.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

If you were teaching the curriculum handed down by Nazis to teach children Nazi beliefs then you were a Nazi

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago (7 children)

There were also Nazi soldiers who didn't want to be there. Like they were told their families would be killed along with the Jews if they did not fight for the Fatherland. They don't get sympathy. It seems like it's an all-or-nothing thing with fascism (on both sides, actually, being for them or against them). So yes, OP likely means the school teachers as well. I don't like that, but we can't really say at this point whether they were teaching good things or bad ones (e.g. state sponsored).

Like teachers in America today being told that they can't teach that it's okay to be Hispanic, Black, or LGBTQ+. Some of them probably still are. Some of them are not. It's hard to know how the numbers actually fall though. But the ones who are teaching hate to children absolutely do deserve to be lumped in with the rest of the movement, by the same logic.

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[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

We stopped calling any valuable scientist, engineer and entrepreneur a nazi as soon as we could use their skills, cars, or wealth too.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

If they weren't they got purged.

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"everyone working in my government"

Jesus Fucking Christ... I swear, some people read "kill the liberal inside your head" and heard "turn into a rambling, insufferable edgelord that has completely lost touch with reality."

Do you even have the remotest idea how thoroughly fucked you (yes you, specifically - and specifically everybody around you) would be if every public worker in your country suddenly decided to up and leave their government job to fulfill your edgelord fantasy moral purity test?

We're talking everybody - from the street sweepers, to sanitation workers, to nurses and health inspectors. Just how far do you think you're going to get?

Even Joseph Fucking Stalin didn't buy into this bullshit narrative of yours - neither did the hundreds of thousands of troops and resistance fighters who marched into Germany (including anarchist ones) and saw every kind of Nazi depravity with their own damn eyes.

But you, edgelord supremo, know better than them, right?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago (19 children)

You're right, it's much better if the government agents prop the nazi regime. A strike of any sort is totally edgelord behaviour.

Fucking cringe, mate.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 4 months ago (18 children)

You’re right, it’s much better if the government agents prop the nazi regime.

Who is propping up this regime, db0?

The people who collected your garbage this week, perhaps?

Howzabout the plumbers who ensures that there's water coming out of your taps? Perhaps them?

A strike of any sort is totally edgelord behaviour.

Who said anything about strikes? If the aforementioned garbage collectors and plumbers leave their government jobs out of some moral prerogative they can't actually go on strikes, can they? The only place they'll be "picketing" is on the unemployment line.

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[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Go ahead explain to me how a park service maintenance worker scrubbing a toilet is propping up the regime.

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[–] CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A good friend of mine is quitting their (once) dream fed job, counting down the remainder until their last day. They work for the government to enforce engineering safety standards, but can no longer stomach the gutting of safety regulations that their department manages. Upon raising ethical concerns, they got dragged into a room with lawyers who relayed a parable about ethics. The lesson was: Be "a good soldier" and ignore safety regulations if you're told to do so.

I go to work everyday and feel like a mail clerk in the Death Star

- My friend to me

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[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (12 children)

Some people on this site are so divorced from reality it's scary. Nuance? Never heard of her.

And I'm sure that anyone potentially replying to my comment will spew some bs like "if you work for a 'nazi' in any way, you're a nazi" and to those people I say that it is clear you have lived your entire life without having had to deal with real life dilemmas and compromises. Must be nice to feel entitled to dictate who gets to provide for their family and who have to quit or they are deemed a nazi by you. What a humble, sane and intelligent mindset to have.

Demanding people in an unstable country to quit their job is the extremist leftie version of "just stop being poor".

Some people don't have the luxury to quit, especially if they have a home and a family to feed and bills to pay, which is the case for most people.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I think that what you're realizing is that lots of the Nazis in Germany were likely we'll meaning people stuck in a bad situation who kept coming to work because they needed to provide for their families and pay bills and maintain their homes.

And do you know how history refers to those people?

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (25 children)

History refers to them as Germans. I'm not playing that game with you. My country share a border with Germany. We know the history very well an we know the hard work the Germans put in after the war was over, as well as the hard work many of them put in to oppose the system while they were under Hitler.

It is the same with everyday Russians who have no control over what their leader is doing to their neighbors.

And now, Americans, stuck in a system that has been stolen by a skinwalker.

I don't want people to starve and go homeless just because some terminally online, holier than thou people online think that opposing a regime is as easy as to just quit your job.

[–] araneae@beehaw.org 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Been reading this thread interested as someone whose loved one works for municipal IT. On that basis I sympathize with your perspective, but I have to take issue with this statement:

And now, Americans, stuck in a system that has been stolen by a skinwalker.

I wouldn't say so. This is the system that we have. The executive office has been erasing checks and balances since WWII. The Heritage Foundation and other SIGs have been pushing white supremacy for 200 years. ICE was created by Bush Jr. after after a mob riot in Florida disrupted a recount that could have given the presidency to Al Gore. Generously this is when we can say our democracy first proved flawed, but the rationalizations and mechanisms go back to our founding. We haven't been hijacked, we are the monster and have been for some time.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be clear, nazis weren't entirely purged, there was the whole Baader Meinhoff movement kicked off by the youth discovering their government and teachers had also been nazis.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh yeah I know. In fact many of them got promoted

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[–] TBi@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (73 children)

By your definition Schindler was a nazi, but by working for them he was able to save many lives… so I’m happy with anyone who continues to work with the goal of slowing down their progress.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Uh.. just so we're clear, Schindler in the movie and novel is a work of fiction, written in the 1980s by an Australian novelist.

The 'historical' Schindler was most definitely an enthusiastic Nazi.. Being a member of the separatist precursor to the Nazi party from afar (while he lived in Czechoslovakia), and then a member of the Nazi party when he moved to Germany after helping the Nazis invade and occupy Czechoslovakia. He worked as an intelligence agent for the Nazi party before and during the war, and there is no doubt that the work he did caused many thousands of deaths. He was then a war profiteer, using cheap Warsaw ghetto laborers in his freshly-purchased factories, which were confiscated from Jews.. He had absolutely no goals beyond self-service and Nazi ideals before finally growing a conscience circa 1942 once he realized the extreme brutality that was going on, and worked to protect (and add to) his cheap laborers.

In short, he's a complicated person.. most definitely a Nazi leading into and during most of the war, and probably a pretty terrible example.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/oskar-schindler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Schindler

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[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is a bad take, capitalist and the Nazis running the government don't give two shits if a couple people quit to clear their conscience. If your in a productive part of the government, healthcare, sanitation, infrastructure etc. that isn't directly contributing to the camps then don't quit, organize. Start agitating to create a union, if there already is one, agitate within it, maybe you'll get fired anyway but if you've integrated yourself into the workplace more by fighting for a union then your fellow workers will have more sympathy, be more angry at the boss who is trying to suppress speech and be more likely to follow you and withhold their labor then if you just yelled "Fuck ICE" as you quit.

Change won't come from individual uncoordinated silent acts of conscience, it comes through building solidarity with your fellow workers and fighting together.

This is all if you work in a part of the government that actually helps people, if you are working in ICE, defense contractors, etc. then yeah quit your job.

[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

First quit, then organise. If people keep doing their government job, fascism will run better. Only sabotage from within would work, but that's a pretty poor career path.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

First quit, then organise.

Their spot will be filled with a yes man for the party. Better to organize in your position of power and let them fire or remove you forcefully than to give up your seat.

Quitting won't help here, imo.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago (26 children)

My philosophy allows for distinction between death squads and meter maids.

The guy who scrubbed Hitler's toilet was not culpable in the same manner as the asshole who sat on it.

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[–] klay1@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (20 children)

What if i stayed, acting like i worked but not really doing anything? Blocking a Nazis spot, taking my salary out of their budget. Maybe even sabotaging. Lets all do that, collectively. Covering eachother by telling how good a job we are doing and so on...

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago

There's a name for that tactic. It's called a slowdown (strike) ;)

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[–] whiskers165@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Tbh I don't think Americans can escape being Nazis just by disassociating with the government. This shit runs way deeper than that. Okay, studying infectious diseases at the CDC or fighting fires with the Forestry Service makes you a Nazi now but quitting and getting a job at Nestle bottling water or a job in computer science at Meta somehow makes a difference? What about private prison guards or Christian missionaries?

Virtually all Americans are Nazis and it's been this way since before the Nazis first copied American styles. Speaking as an American the corporate stooges here are far more full throated and blood thirsty fascists than many of their government counterparts. Afterall the American government perpetrates it's crimes on behalf of American capital and American capital sponsors it's government's crimes.

You're letting the whole country of fascists off way too easy when you reduce it to, "government=Nazi, quit now"

Americans cannot escape being Nazis just by changing jobs. Americans cannot escape being Nazis just by changing their source of income. I don't even know if overthrowing the government would be enough to cleanse Americans of the Nazi label without serious reparations to the global south and land back to American indigenous people. It will be a generational struggle to wash the stench of Nazism from this land. Turning in your two weeks working at the USPS delivering mail changes absolutely nothing.

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[–] DaMummy@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

OK but can we start with billionaires first?

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[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what I'd do if the Americans took over Canada. Likely all my savings would vanish overnight along with the Canadian dollar, so all I'd own is what's in our apartment at the time. I would probably have to work for the occupiers just to eat.

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Pretty sure the guerillas would feed you, and as a bonus, you get to shoot nazis

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[–] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

The funny thing is it seems most commentors in this post are civilians.

I am a state employee, and I am keenly aware of my role in reinforcing the state mechanisms.

My work directly supports and maintains a small subsection of gears of this overall system.

I get paid in taxpayer money, I have the capability of living a "middle class" life.

I donate some of my earnings to charities and fundraisers for various undisclosed civil rights and activists.

I love doing the contents of my work, And I enjoy the knowledge that my work contributes to a better experience for civilians in my state.

But I am keenly aware that I am reinforcing the gears even if the work I do has little association to any detrimental effects to the people.

I am at the bottom of the ladder, following orders, providing services to improve the experience for civilians, reinforcing the gears.

I do it for the paycheck.

I am complicit in that regards.


All statements and opinions in this post are not reflective of my employer.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It really depends what a person actually does for the state, at what level of government they operate. Especially in a country as large as the US. Many states are larger than European nations, and have larger GDPs. If you work for the state level Department of Environmental Protection in Vermont, you're not exactly contributing to the same "machine" that's killing the Republic

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well to be fair...

The vast majority of Nazi's were pardoned as you can't jail the majority of an entire country. The West of the worst were tried and sentenced, most simply weren't even charge with anything. Most Nazi soldiers simply returned home.

Also, back then just about everything was linked to the Nazi's and there war effort, so unless you worked for the resistance, technically, you were working for the Nazi's too

Having said that, most of ICE, for example, will not be charged with much, I expect. Trump's top level goons, on the other hand...

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