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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago (14 children)

As a Dane I am grateful that so many countries have expressed support for Greenland and Denmark in this situation.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Saying and acting are unfortunately a world apart. Let's hope that expression manifests into something tangible if necessary. I feel like I'm living through my history lessons at the moment and I don't like what happened next.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think EU has demonstrated that we can act in concord when needed. We can't beat USA militarily, but we can make it very expensive for USA if they invade Europe. Europe is already working on independence from USA both economically and militarily, if USA invades a European country, I guess we have no other option than to work with China instead of USA.

I have no idea how Trump see it as a good idea to get former allies to turn against USA. It is already happening to some degree, the alliance is very uneasy now, in a way that has never before been the case between Europe and USA after WW2, and the exact same with Canada and USA.
USA has no real allies left, only allies of convenience. And at some point USA will learn the difference. That point will probably be pretty instant if USA invades Greenland.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It probably includes most Americans. I think even a lot of his voters don't want this. He did run on being the candidate of peace and getting us out of wars. That was enough to fool enough people into voting for him.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes there are a lot of good Americans, unfortunately they are a minority. 🙁

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't think they are. I think the minority are running the show right now.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Would be pretty great if the majority could do something about it, then.

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[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Technically true but irrelevant.

A majority of Americans do not give a shit about Danemark and would not lift their pinky to help one of their staunchest allies. That is true.

MAGA is a (large) minority. That is also true.

This is all enabled by a very sizeable chunk of Americans being literally mentally unable to conceptualize people outside their village as living, breathing, fully conscious people deserving of love and safety. They are colloquially known as "non-voters".

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Unfortunately you are obviously wrong.
Trump got the majority vote, Republicans have behaved like sociopaths for decades, and Trump even turned it up to a whole new level.
It was very obvious, and despite that he got the majority vote. That clearly shows the Majority of Americans accepted these sociopathic policies. There is no way around it, it was too obvious to claim afterwards that "this was not what we voted for", because USA got EXACTLY what they voted for. And lame excuses like it's only half the population that vote are frivolous. Because despite the clear danger, people did NOT turn up to vote against Trump.

Everybody who didn't vote but could have, accepted that Trump might win, and was OK with that.

If you didn't vote, or voted Trump, you don't get to whine about it afterwards. It's not like he changed character after the vote.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Trump got the majority vote

Nope a decent plurality does not a majority make

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[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 days ago

I'm from the US and I'm disgusted and embarrassed with the place. I moved to Sweden recently and if it comes to it I'd sooner help protect your borders than go back to the US

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

Support means little to nothing.

I want to see actions with words, I need to see actions with words. So far, trump takes and people take a step back. Trump takes again and governments protest, but they step back.

Here too, trump takes a country, murders some innocent civilians and military, and then the Cheetos threatens Greenland, AND YOU GOT SUPPORT?

You ain't got shit. Empty words, not even on paper but on some website.

What people and countries do when Greenland will be invaded, and it will be, will matter. This, so far, hasn't been shit and I suspect that once Greenland gets invaded and stolen, god knows what will happen to it's inhabitants, nobody will do anything more than weakly protest

[–] BoJackHorseman@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

They be moooonitoring

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Have they closed the US military base? Stripped the soldiers of weapons, kicked them off base, deported them? Sent in people to secure the base? These are high alert actions.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

In "full crisis mode," this should be the first step, and I hope it's what Denmark & Greenland do.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If the US takes Greenland, I fear that NATO will be effectively dissolved. Denmark probably invokes Article 5... does anyone come to their aid against the US? Seems unlikely. If they do, let's be real here, the US will just acquire new colonies. Either way, NATO means next to nothing; total Russian victory. Russia gets to sabotage/colonize western and then eastern Europe, and China gets Taiwan (if they feel like calling the US's bluff) and whatever else they want. The only truly sovereign countries left will be the ones with a hefty nuclear arsenal.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If the US takes Greenland and NATO doesn't respond Canada is next.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think so. Taking over Greenland will look a bit like changing the name of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America. US will say they now control Greenland, Denmark will say they don't. There will be no invasion because US already has a military base there. Denmark will not attack it because it would be foolish and pointless. US will probably say that Greenland residents can get US passports and establish some parallel administration. And then, at some point, when they want prove they actually own Greenland US will provoke some conflict. Maybe they will take control of the international airport or something. Denmark will back down and everyone will accept it's US territory while opposing it officially.

With Canada this will not work. They would have to actually invade it and I don't think they are there yet. Bombing of Mexico will happen first.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is a distressingly realistic take. The vast majority of human beings don't want to be the one to start a fight, and the psychopath class that exists at all levels have used this generally agreeable human trait to leverage "I'm not touching you!" into fascist takeover because nobody wants to be the one to throw the first punch.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 7 points 3 days ago

Maybe Canada needs a midnight swoop and kidnap Dump in the night and send him to prison for being a child rapist

Just it anyone has the final call for nukes and stuff, make sure you include Putin in the list - wouldn't want the filthy mastermind behind global rot and decay to not see justice before his untimely pants-shitting demise.

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 3 points 3 days ago

~~if~~

*After

it's there anything in NATO about what they will do if a NATO nation invaded another NATO nation?

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't know what the arguments against this idea would be, but seems to me like the first thing Denmark needs to do, probably with the help of some allies, is expel the US from Greenland, take over the US military base there and strongly fortify it. Then the US can't use it for the invasion. I'm sure their plans heavily depend on having and using that base. Don't say anything beforehand, just show up with enough force that the existing US contingent there can't win if they fight back, present the eviction notice, and get them moving out before US can send reinforcements.

[–] Simulation@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Appeasing to a bully never works. Until you evict the US base out of Greenland, you are not in crisis mode. Europeans are tired of inaction.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

EU is too divided to do anything. My guess is Hungary will support it, UK will "strongly oppose" but do nothing to protect their trade deals and Germany will express support but do nothing not to engender their failing economy. Denmark, Ireland, Netherlands and Spain will enact some sanctions. Not sure about France... Anyway, EU as a whole will not respond. This was long time in the making. Tolerating foreign agents like Hungary for way too long, letting Germany weaken EU's security for their economic benefit through deals with Russia and not reacting to developments in US in time. Our politicians failed us and now we will feel the consequences.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Finland will be silent and hope no one will notice we are here.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah I've been disgusted by the USA bootlicking of our leaders. The moment people manage to force the government finally stand up to Russia for a moment, they just seek new shoes to lick. Weak, foolish idiots, it doesn't matter how much golfing you do with Trump. You can't trust dictators

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

-people are being abused and murdered by another state

-no one gives a shit because they didn't sign the right pieces of paper 40 years ago.

What the fuck is wrong with the world man. Oppression everywhere needs to be met with EXTREME VIOLENCE.

You want to abuse people, you need to be removed from the planet by something very fast moving. Doesn't matter if that is a head of state or a military. Oppression needs to be met with overwhelming retaliatory force.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And this is the point

Yrumpmis Putin's little bitch, Putin wants to dissolve NATO. If the US takes Greenland, it'll be the end of NATO, and ~~the US~~ Putin will control Greenland and with that, the Arctic

And still nobody moves

[–] plyth@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

And still nobody moves

Because Trump is not Putin’s little bitch.

The EU is Trump's bitch after being at war with Russia. Trump is financed by US billionaires first, not Putin.

But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago

denmark can rebuke with, we will report more on the epstein files you clearly are trying to distract from. its what one of the south american countries currently threatened are doing.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Danes, Canada will not abandon you.

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