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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 127 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The US has been drunk on the delusion of how noble and benevolent we consider ourselves since World War II.

We like to conveniently forget that at the time, many Americans looked up to the Nazis and were embracing eugenics. We were legally sterilizing subjective "undesirables," often without their knowledge, and we had no plans to do shit until the Axis, already steeped in conflict, decided to attack us directly from half a world away, committing one of the greatest self-inflicted tactical blunders in history thankfully.

America is all about subjugation, exploitation, and genocide. It just got a propaganda team to soften the way in which it talks about it since the mid 20th century.

At the end of the day, that's the magic of America: bullshitting. Lying. To ourselves and others. From "all men* are created equal" (Only applies to wealthy Caucasian land owners) to "manifest destiny" (genocide the people that already live here because its our destiny) to "separate but equal"(even apex American bullshitters couldn't say this one with a straight face) to "turning the bull loose"(get back to work slaves, this isn't a society) to "don't ask, don't tell" (we refuse to accept you as a human being, but hey come die gruesomely so our greedy fucks can access foreign oil markets). Our bullshit machine runs so deep, we are a ~~nation~~ capital exploitation farm that practically doubles as a religion.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26322647/#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20members,upheld%20such%20laws%20in%201927.

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

People also forget that the people who came to the New World to escape religious persecution were being persecuted because their beliefs were so radical that no one wanted to deal with their bullshit anymore.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yep!

And we're still the sexuality phobic weirdos of the developed world, which stems out of our puritanical backwards forerunners.

Glorification of gruesome, bloody hyperviolence all day baby, we'll show it on a loop on the news for the kiddos! Don't forget to like and subscribe!

One flaccid dick or vagina in public, on the other hand, and everyone loses their minds!

This is an us thing. We are the prudes of the developed western world. “Omg a boobie AAAAHHHH my child is scarred for life!“

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

If there's one thing I know about the US, it's that everyone is afraid of boobies.

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[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

One of the best examples of U.S. government PR is the rebranding of the Department of War to the Department of Defense, even though its function didn't change. People don't like war, but call it defense and you're golden.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

"Defense companies"

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Wait, I thought the Nazis were the ones looking up at the Americans and based on them

[-] wololo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It goes both ways. Nazis were inspired by the US specifically the Jim Crow era, And US were looking up to Nazis until Japan nuked pearl harbor.

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

"Japan nuked pearl harbor" 💀💀💀

[-] wololo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago

not nuked I meant bombed lmao

[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Imagine if Japan legit did a reverse Uno card on the US lmao

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

many Americans looked up to the Nazis

And the Nazis were looking up to Americans! House on fire and all that...

[-] p_cells@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

To be fair, every nation feels good about themselves. Be proud of the good things, neglect the bad things. Who would want to be the bad guy? This is how human mind works.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Except that's not the case at all. Lots of people in lots of nations will gladly tell you their country is shit.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

Including the us. Correct

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[-] franklin@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago

Stolen from another post felt relevant

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago
[-] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Let’s be honest here. That’s a good episode, and I’m not judging you. But Sisko KOing Q is easily the best moment in the show.

”I’m not PICARD.”

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

The Boston massacre was basically an anti-police riot that turned into a police shooting. The police were acquitted of the murder, which lead to more protests and an eventual revolution. Anytime someone says "real Americans support the police," I point back to that.

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[-] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

points to Great Britain

I learned it from you

[-] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago
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[-] stress_headache@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

This tweet is banned in Texas and Florida.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Just because America hasn't lived up to its values doesn't mean that the values are wrong

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Dude. Our constitution said black people were 3/5ths of a human.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Exactly, thanks for supporting my point.

Does it still? Or did we change the Constitution to better reflect our values?

[-] CaptionAdam@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I mean the constitution is the backbone of the system and it used to be updated, but now people treat it as this perfect monolithic unchanging thing. If any modern politician tryd to add amendments it would not go well(also Canadian here)

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[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Our values are changing. The speaker of the House says that the separation of church and state does not exist. Second in line to the presidency.

Our history is being rewritten. Just look at the reinterpretation of the 2nd amendment after Reagan.

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[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

And somehow America's the "upholder of moral values" and the world's police

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

And the textbooks have been marginally sanitized even then.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

As an illiterate American, I could not read that meme and it's only by chance through random mashing of the keys that I was able to craft this response.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 16 points 11 months ago

If Americans told the truth*

They can read it was about taxes but they won’t get to read about the colonies being pissed about fair treatment to the Natives for their help in the 7 years war (fair is relative: read it as respecting their borders and claims to America)

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Oh, so I'm the only one who gets in trouble when I start referencing Malcom X?

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[-] interceder270@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Saddest thing among Americans is that they've been brainwashed into thinking they were the good guys in the revolution.

The revolution occurred because Britain took on a massive amount of debt to save Americans from the French and Natives. Britain wanted Americans to pay them back, but Americans just said 'no' and that's how we began fighting for our independence.

Our ancestors are shitbags. Plain and simple. "Opportunity" and "laissez-faire" are so important to American culture because they revolve around the idea "if you can get away with it, do it."

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[-] pascal@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

So, in order, taxes evasion, war, secession, wars, racism, wars, poor labour laws, wars and racism again?

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[-] dx1@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Joshua Fit For Battle - Contents Of An American History Class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP862vW9WJE

Relentless imperialistic fucks

Eye glassed with drugs of power and conquest

Greed kills

Establish a history relationship

And turn around and stab them in the back

Guns and disease destroyed a whole culture

Victims on their backs, rotting

Seeping, suffering

Suffering, suffering

Suffering

This is our fucking history

This is our fucking history

History repeats itself and always will

[-] helixdaunting@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Thank you for transcribing the lyrics, because I couldn't understand them in the first 30 seconds and I wasn't willing to continue listening after that.

The message is good, the instrumentalists are proficient, but the vocals are painful. It was less "Rage Against The Machine" and more "Tantrum Against The Melody".

[-] Surp@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Opens history book on Europe/Asia/Africa/South America, etc. insert literally any place in the world. Wow! I'm funny on Lemmy! So dumb, good people in every country in the world. And just about every country has done unspeakable things to get to where they are today. Most of the time it's not because the good people even want to be involved it's because the rich make it happen. Blame the rich...they are the problem in every country.

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

You're not wrong, every country has done fucked shit. I think the point of this meme is to bring Americans down to that realisation that applies to their country too, tho.

[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

With an insulting title like this post has, I don't think that's the point at all.

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[-] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Not all countries did as horrible things as America, at least not on the same scale

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