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He's one of the good ones!!!

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I am not inherently against "AI". I am against LLM's because they are both an ecological disaster and a social disaster.

LLMs are fundamentally incapable of caring about what it produces and therefore incapable of making anything interesting. In the early days of LLMs' mainstream uses that issue was somewhat compensated for by randomness and jank, but the subsequent advancements in the technology have mainly made it's outputs as generic as possible. None of this has to do with the Iron Giant, as he is a fictional character.

If it worked the way that it does in sci-fi I'd have no problem with it. If it could give us cures for cancer and reactionless drives everyone would be happy.

But it doesn't work like that and if they keep going along the lines of Large Language Models it'll never work like that. AI as it is right now is a barely functional toy that is being misused by virtually everyone and major businesses alike.

I am perfectly happy for AI research to continue but they need to be realistic about its capabilities and be honest about their valuations of companies. AI research should still be at the level of "in the lab", it is definitely not a product that should be commercially available yet.

Only talentless losers make A.I. "art."

Wasn't he an alien?

Naw, he a homie. He a real clanka.

It.wouldve.been interesting to see AI before social media. Right now it feels like an extension of social media.

It's a clanker, but I need it to stay competitive. If only I could have a few Blackwell's...

"Hes one of the good ones"

AI as a concept is great. It should 100% be used for scientific and medical research.

But modern AI is a tool of fascists that is destroying our environment and causing more harm than good to our society. Anyone who uses it unironically should be ashamed of themselves. It is absolutely killing people's ability to think.

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For those confused by the pic, it's the Iron Giant. Fantastic movie from the 90s, and incredibly sad and nostalgia inducing. Definitely worth a watch.

But yes that's a clanker

One word sums up all that is wrong right now and it is greed.

AI has become synonymous with the worst of human nature hence it has become a loaded term.

Another way to look at this is it is not AI that is the problem we are or more specifically the people that will use AI to control us.

This technology is like the atomic bomb. We are fast racing towards a future were a few people will be able to dictate what everyone will be able to do. The person that controls AI and the computing power associated with it will control the world.This is intoxicating and it has drawn out the worst human beings who want to misuse this technology.

And it has already happened to some degree. Massive data centers, surveillance technology, and AI are being used to profile people and target them for death. In the future AI teachers will become the dominate form of teaching. AI will make our decision and we will be subject to a system without recourse or redressability.

Soon we will have a generation of people who only know what AI has told them. This is the kind of scenario that we have been warned against and the reason that those who dislike like propaganda and misinformation are so upset with where things are heading.

A fascinating tool with a lot of potential, but sadly is being used right now to feed a greed machine.

If you examine closely, you'll see there is no AI, but Vin Diesel reading a script (written by humans).

wait, that caption on the iron giant is unironically really funny.

idk who that character is, but i don't like AI, it is polluting the environment and polluting the internet, all while disrespecting the work of artists (visual artists, musicians, voice actors, writers, photographers, etc)

opt-out is not consent

AI is riding the surface of a monster bubble and anyone gleefully waiting for the pop has no idea what that's going to do the US economy, and then everyone elses.

All but 1% of US economic growth last year was AI development and speculation. Combine that with the US passing, for the first time, 200%+ on the Buffett Index and we are screwed.

For reference, the Buffett Index is total stock market valuation vs. GDP. There is better than twice the dollars in the stock market than we produce in a year. The index was around 130% in 1929 and 2008.

I strongly dislike how LLMs are inserted everywhere.

But LLMs are just one kind of AI and I'm not going to stop using the kinds that actually are useful and appropriate.

Depends on the use case.

• AI that parses manuals, documentation and dumbs it down for me? Yes please.
• AI that generates images? Eh, kinda undecided. I have seen really impressive AI videos, which I couldn't tell from real videography.
• AI as a personal assistant? No, too much energy wasted on minor issues that could have been solved more efficiently. E.g: I have X at home, what could I make for dinner?
• AI (not LLMs) in medical/scientific fields. Very intruiging. Yes. good shit.
• AI in childrens toys. Eww. Burn it! Fecken burn it!!!

I think it can be a great tool, but it is overvalued atm, and there are AI images anywhere which is really frustrating. When I go to pinterest, I want to see human input. When I check my LinkedIn everyone and their cat is using AI graphics - I get it, it's quick and easy, but such a waste of energy.

If we want to keep using AI, we need to reduce the quantity in which we use it and it's resource consumption.

Average user here thinks AI is synonymous with LLMs and that it's not only not intelligent but also bad for the environment, immoral to use because it's trained on copyrighted content, a total job-killer that's going to leave everyone unemployed, soulless slop that can't create real art or writing, and basically just a lazy cheat for people who lack actual talent or skills.

He would be true AI. I would shower him with love. 

Just because some cock sucking finance bros call an LLM a AI, doesn’t make it an AI.

Wow, you don't know who that is but you'd ask if we'd call him a clanker?

I'm a fan of the technology, I've been using it for various projects and I see a lot of potential. But there's widespread anti-AI sentiment on the Fediverse. I notice you're getting a lot of downvotes for merely asking about it.

From a practical point, useful in starting a base on projects, but sucks on further progress. I've used it in coding and 3d motion, and in both my experience it was like that.

From an environmental point, it's an overengineered mess. Local models are satisfactory for most use cases, and we don't really need huge computing clusters dedicated for AI.

It’s hot garbage and people who use it to create images/music are the polar opposite of artists.

I support running or using AI locally since it's privacy respecting and doesn't damage environment since the Local AI uses energy to function from the device which it's running on locally. But in terms of other AI, nope.

I think that AI is fine for personal use but I also think that companies shouldn't be able to use it for profit. If the AI can do something I can't and I'm not using it for profit, I have no problem using it. I occasionally use AI to generate images for personal use and I also on rare occasions use AI Dungeon if I'm having trouble sleeping.

A bit of a gray area that I've been letting slide is when someone, who is working by themselves, wants to make a game but they lack the artistic talent and budget to hire a good artist to make art for their game. I understand that the use of AI is technically bad in this case but I understand why they would use it and, especially if the game is free, I'm willing to give the game a try, but I will dock points and bring it up when/if I review it.

At the moment, AI is just a glorified autocomplete and I think it does more harm than good. (For LLMs). Is it a useful tool? Definitely. Should it replace jobs? Hell no. Is it being used as an excuse for the current recession and layoffs caused by offshoring? Hell yes. Is it killing the internet and propagating fake news? Definitely

If we're talking about other applications (computer vision, image processing etc), then yes. I think think the surveillance states (face verification) and Ukraine-Russia war heavily uses these applications