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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is what you get when AI fanaticism combines with Rust fanaticism.

1 million lines a month is 2-ish line per second. That "engineer" is just someone to blame when things don't work. They aren't going to be contributing anything.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

I mean, if this is true and it works it is not too far fetched. You'd mostly be checking that tests still make sense and that they pass.

Microsoft scientists have worked on a tool that automatically converts some C code to Rust.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Somebody got yelled at Edit: seeing as theres no embed, the same guy put up something about this was a research prject and, hah, of course theyre not porting windows to rust.

https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/115774900029763806

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 40 minutes ago

The linkedin post this is based on sounds like a troll/joke/fake/mental episode.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Be off fucking windows by 2030, got it.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You can be happily off Windows in less than an hour.

https://fedoraproject.org/kde/

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 3 points 23 minutes ago

I truly believe immutable Fedora distros are the answer to windows. I spent years and years on Debian based distros. At the beginning of 2025 I finally switched my daily driver from Windows to an arch based distro.

Fast forward to October where I finally put Bazzite on my S/O's gaming laptop, and shit just works. But the real kicker is that I don't have to worry if upgrading her system will leave it unbootable.

Look, I love tinkering, compiling from source, and keeping a spare Linux kernel, but windows users don't want that shit. They yern for flat packs and systems that you can't fuck up.

Anyways, fedora atomic, 100% the new meta.

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] milk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

Parks and Recreation

[–] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Parks & Recreation

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Perfect plan, I'm sure there will be no problems

[–] DeuxChevaux@lemmy.world 28 points 7 hours ago

A vibe coded Windows 12. Sounds... interesting,,, mildly...

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 68 points 9 hours ago

I look forward to the total and complete collapse of Microsoft in the computer marketplace.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 116 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

“My goal is to eliminate every line of C and C++ from Microsoft by 2030,” Microsoft distinguished engineer Galen Hunt wrote in a recent LinkedIn post.

“Our strategy is to combine AI and Algorithms to rewrite Microsoft’s largest codebases,” he added. “Our North Star is ‘1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code.’”

Well, I expect it'll be exciting, one way or another.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

“Our strategy is to combine AI and Algorithms to rewrite Microsoft’s largest codebases,” he added. “Our North Star is ‘1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code.’”

That's insane. Even a good engineer will frequently need years to fully understand one million lines of code - even if the code is organized very, very well.

To compare, one million lines of program code might have around 100000 to 200000 unique symbols whose meaning and complex connections an engineer working with it has to learn and memorize. That's far more than the average vocabulary one will learn in five years when learning a foreign language to a high skill level. Doing it in a month would be like learning to read and write fine Japanese or Arab literature in a month when you have never spoken a word in that language before.

The Linux kernel has now passed 40 million lines of code, written over 30 years by tens of thousands of master programmers. And that's kind of a historic achievement. What happens is that complexity increases sharply with each duplication of the amount of code.

[–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda still your point, but if you have one engineer producing 1M SLOC, how many do you have for code review?

I hate how everyone nowadays is acting like reviews are not important. Actual oversight over codebase is way less important than shipping random code. Which is insane.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

GitHub Copilot performs PR reviews now doesn't it

[–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 58 minutes ago

Yeah, that's exactly what we need.

LLM producing the code

LLM approving the change

LLM agent pushing to prod

Then wonder why the users are gone

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

It's not great.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago

You know it's going to be successful when they go back to using antiquated productivity measurements like measuring based on lines of code in a time frame. We all know AI is fucking spectacular at generating overly verbose code.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 22 points 4 hours ago

Well, I expect it’ll be exciting, one way or another.

This gives the curse "may you live in interesting times" vibes

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

they are speedrunning enshitification 🐧

[–] Iunnrais@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Enshittification does not mean making things suck in general. It specifically means the business model of making a good product for users, then making the product bad for users and good for advertisers or data purchasers or retailers or whatever, and then when you have a captured market, making it worse for everyone to squeeze more money faster.

Microsoft is not doing this. They might be sucking, and making a worse product, but it’s not following the enshittification playbook.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 hours ago

points to ads in the start menu and surveillance in the OS

[–] hummingbird@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Pardon me, but that is exactly what MS is doing.

[–] Malcolm@lemmy.world 35 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Get out your popcorn because this should be fun to watch. They're already vibe coding all of the value and stability out of their OS.

As someone who only still has a Window install because Wine can't handle the CAD tools I rely on, I look forward to the day when Linux becomes a more attractive platform to release professional software for. I'm not holding my breath for the Year of the Linux Desktop but I can certainly enjoy the ride of MS's self sabotage to get there.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Have you tried Winboat? Don't know about CAD but it can handle Photoshop well.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

WinBoat is amazing, but it doesn’t have GPU passthrough yet. That one feature is the holy grail for Windows virtualization on Linux. I hope the WinBoat team can solve it.

[–] msage@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago

I'm afraid that's going to be a long way off.

KVM can do it, but usually only to one kernel. Not sure if you can have multiple kernels handling one GPU.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 51 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Plans move to Rust, with help from AI

As if AI could handle the mountains of checks Rust has you account for.

AI: This is unsafe. This is also unsafe. This third one? Unsafe.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 41 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (14 children)

Honestly, Microsoft should just take the L, develop Windows 12 based on a Linux kernel, and re-write most of their stuff from scratch.
After focusing on backwards-compatibility for 40 years, they're allowed a new start, to fix all the rotten code they inherited from the 1980's.

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 hours ago

Oh, God I would hate that.

I don't want microshit software to become a standard in Linux.

What Microsoft needs to do is keep pushing AI as much as possible until it burns itself to the ground.

That would make a lot of sense, which is why they are going to do something else.

[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 34 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It seems like the actual windows kernel isn't that bad, it's mainly all the stuff on top of it at this point that is killing the OS

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Which they could clean up, but it would mean killing backwards compatibility, which is arguably the only selling point of Windows.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

and they have decades of closed drivers written for it.

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