Evangelical leaders are certainly trying.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/is-empathy-a-sin-some-conservative-christians-argue-it-can-be

It's by design.

The spread of the superhero (Übermenschen) to ubiquity in pop culture, especially Hollywood, the punishing and assumption of evil within destitute people, the indoctrination of children (pledge of allegiance et al), the selective curricula that largely keep the general education from showing the populace of the US that their country is more closely related to a self styled African dictatorship than a modern social democracy. Usanians frequently utter "it's not personal, it's business". That is the hallmark of declining hegemon and roughly translates to "fuck you, got mine".

MAGA conservatives are literally unable to feel empathy. There have been scientific studies showing the connection between the brain structures that feel empathy and political leaning

It is our duty to encourage empathy in others, otherwise waves arms

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10281241/

It's not innate...

Innately humans are just animals. It takes effort to get people on the same page that cooperating is usually best

But we stopped teaching kids that in school 20 years ago.

That's the sad truth about it. It's not that the right corrupted a generation, just that between them an the neoliberals, no one wanted to help them. They both wanted brain dead tribalism because that's what their mutual donors want

It honestly shouldn't be that hard for everyone to follow the string back to "no child left behind' but I remember pointing out this would happen 30 years ago, and I thought it was obvious back then too.

At least since the 60s/70s, it's not new.

Ignore. Empathy is hot.

These values are cyclical in history. Mostly they persist until the system breaks down and then there is a surge of solidarity which sets things back on the path until people start thinking all their advantages came from their own ability and then the cycle repeats.

The early 1900's was fairly communal but the great war and the 1920's was filled with this sentiment of individuality until the depression crashed it out and then there was a split - a combo of Union efforts, reinvestment in government systems and extreme solidarity out of nessesity in the US/UK and the same time toxic individuality caused a canabalization of society in fascist areas of Europe. The World War created more extreme communal solidarity. In the areas where there was union resistance and communal solidarity legislation to keep businesses in check was installed and that gave way to pushback from business interest. As solidarity continued there was more general prosperity and you started seeing marginalized communities start to speak up. Racial communities, disability communities, queer communities - those who had been denied the comfort everyone else was taking for granted popped up and fought like hell for empathy and some made bigger wins than others...but then you start seeing the push back. Austerity gospel via Regan and Thatcher "there is no society just individuals and families" and all those safeguards and solidarity that were put in place to solve the crash of the 30's started to be undone and slandered as "too much overreach".

Looking at the UK if you go back even further you see this cycle repeat work backwards and you see it. Victorian workhouse systems replacing the welfare state and then being discarded as cruel. The Georgian fight for the poor law and charity and the industrial revolution's runaway excess of the rich that fed people into the meat grinder of labour and erroded poor law to force compliance.

Empathy's time will come again but apparently we need to be reminded by virtue of horror what the cost of this kind of inviduality is.

Independence can be weaponized to make people fight each other.

So can collectivism be used to manipulate people to sacrifice "for the common good", like for example, forcing you to be in the military to "fight for our country" in foreign wars.

Me vs Us

Us vs Them

Both can be problematic.

They're sure trying their best.

This is largely an American problem, although it is spreading due to global media.

I blame it largely on Calvinism and the prosperity gospel:

"Good things come to good people" -> "If good things didn't come to you, you're not a good person" -> "Poor people are poor because they are bad people, and we should not help them" -> "It's okay to help billionaires, they wouldn't be rich if they weren't good people"

A lot of poor people have this view in the US, which you would think would make them reconsider it, but they solve this with mental gymnastics: They and their in-group are good people, so obviously it's okay to help them and the good things are coming any second. Another reason not to tax rich people, they'll be one soon!

Yes. We have become a nation of de facto sovereign citizens. The average American thinks of nothing past the crummy job, the soul breaking commute, the mortgage, and another Ben Franklin for the third star on the fourth stripe on little Ayngylynn's tae kwon do white belt. Frank Freeway and Susie Soccermom are too wrapped up in themselves to care what kind of people we are.

Back in 1997, my sociology professor said the US would become the meanest society in history. And OMFFSM, I see it everywhere. There's no more sense of community or even common courtesy. Hurt the other guy or get hurt. Violence over small things will soon be commonplace and inescapable. We will all have to be armed, much as we may hate it. This is all by design.

right wing propaganda via news, shows and movies is very effectivive. its always seperating "in groups" against outgroups"aka poors, lgbtq+, homeless, drug addicts, prostitutes, vs a moral white guy that is always above average. or sometimes they show those wierd racist kinks, like white guy going after asian women. thats how they pacify americans.

These are age old comments, I heard all of them from a very young age. It's been there the whole time.

First they made you fear someone, then they told you they lived down the street.

Debatable how deliberate that was, but it's certainly not not what they wanted...

Is not about eliminating empathy. That party is a side effect of carpet bombing anything the left values. It's just another "makes libs cry"

"I hate insert group of people"

The new "hyperindividualism" trend is sad to look into too.

I have no empathy nor sympathy left for the right. I would like for them all to bleed out through their eyeballs.

Just as Conservatives have wanted. This isn't new. This was the default. Empathy was an exception started in the 60's.

Annoyed to report: successful and long standing communes/communities seem to all be highly selective, at least initially.

If you've got good examples that contradict this, please share.

From my own observations it appears that empathy is rapidly being worn away by hatred. Its hard to empathize with things that go contrary to one's ideas of correctness

Our president is a felon rapist pedophile.

That's absolutely going to have an influence on young, impressionable minds.

The president is....well, used to be...a person that, among other things, acted as a role model. Now kids are going to be looking to that role model and seeing a felon rapist pedophile that reached the top of our societal structure and they're going to emulate.

Our society was already sick. Now it's terminal.

Just had this discussions on Christmas. Jesuses teachings are pretty explicit that followers are supposed to be charitable and compassionate and give freely and help those they can. Talking to some conservative Christian about it they said they were finding it very hard not to be cynical and see every case of charity as just fraud.

To the point where not imprisoning people for trying to move somewhere for work is something they really consider charity.

It's a sharp contradiction to me

Some of that is dumbfuckism. Constitutional republics are democracies, for example.

Some of those sentiments have always existed & come across as though you were born yesterday.

While socialism is a broad term, communism usually refers to communist states, which are authoritarian regimes that even in theory reject universal individual rights/liberties. Non-authoritarian socialism is something else.

People have a duty to beneficence. However, plenty of people lazily toss empathy around as an argument from outrage fallacy instead of bothering to build a more credible & persuasive argument. Listeners get sick of that fast & don't mind if you think of them as monsters: they certainly don't care about your poorly argued opinions.

So, that could be deprogramming or it could be ineffective discussion breakdowns. I don't think empathy requires programming. I'd think its rejection require reprogramming.

Individualism doesn't necessarily mean selfishness. As pointed out elsewhere, collectivism can also lead to oppressive injustices.