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Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 185 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Honestly that seems pretty reasonable. Boiling things alive is pretty barbaric.

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[–] Drahngis@feddit.dk 152 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

It frightens me that we can't 100% agree that boiling a living thing that feels pain, is bad.

Humans are the worst.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (43 children)

Most killing involves pain, all meat requires killing.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And it should be instant. Not like the extreme polar end of those asian guys skinning a dog while it was still alive for the meat market.

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[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

Have you ever seen felines hunting? They are fucking psychos by your standards.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Judging ourselves by what animals do is a wild take. I guess we've just all broadly stopped caring about being human sometime around when "alpha males" became a serious topic of discussion in human behavior.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 weeks ago

They get a free pass because they are cute.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. I kinda like meat, but seriously. At least make it quick and/or painless, not torture.

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[–] citizensongbird@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Will always be funny to me that lobsters are such an expensive delicacy at fine dining restaurants when they started out as food for extremely poor people in coastal communities. In the old days the general public viewed eating them as you would view eating a rat today.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oysters have made the switch between poor people food and rich people food quite a few times. Tuna has made the switch in my lifetime. It probably has something to do with how easy they are to harvest/catch when plentiful versus the results of overfishing, and how delicate the food is in the supply chain.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Bacon also, it used to be cheap as fuck. Same with chicken wings. Two of the cheapest parts of the animal, now magically nearly the most expensive.

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[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Give the tech bros long enough and rat will be a delicacy for the rest of us aswell

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[–] Devial@discuss.online 42 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

UK government caring more about lobster welfare than that of trans people.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 83 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't think you're allowed to boil trans people alive either

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 31 points 3 weeks ago

The bad thing is that these goals do not conflict with each other: they could easily do both if they wanted to.

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[–] IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org 39 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Good. This may seem like a joke now but slowly over decades people will stop doing this.

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[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 36 points 3 weeks ago (24 children)

The amount of people that are in knots trying to defend a barbaric practice is quite telling.

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[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

With this administration's track record, I'm half expecting this to turn out to be the justification for putting "lobster-verification" cameras in everyone's kitchen.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (34 children)

Uh, does anyone in this thread even know how to kill a lobster?

I feel like this is barely a problem, you usually slice into its head and then immediately boil to avoid any chance of rapid bacteria breakdown. I dont even know if theres any other practical method aside from boiling without slicing into the head.

Also not to be that guy, but is this really such a massive concern that the government needs to focus on right now? Seems like they are more concerned about handling lobsters than their own citizens after they labeled Palestine Action a terrorist group and had anyone supporting them arrested and charged as such.

[–] slampisko@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Maybe the citizens have been asking for them to deal with lobbyists and they just misheard

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago

You can have more than one law being established at once.

There has been systematic reduction in the humanities/philosophy, arts, literature etc. In countries. The affect it has is a society focused on work and compliance with status quo. (The USA is actively destroying their own system purposly)

A law ending cruelty should be celebrated as a glimmer of hope that we as a society are still capably of thinking at a higher level, that we are still questioning life, and meanings around it. If we cease to do those things we will be a dead automata society that lives only to work.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Killed a lobster? I've never even tasted one. Sounds like a rich people problem.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Lobsters used to be poor people's food. The taste is really just giant shrimp.

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[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Culinary school recommended a quick kitchen knife through the brain immediately before boiling

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It's just silly that this is still a thing in almost 2026. It's so obvious even Hitler banned it, and he was no animal rights activist.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He actually was, despite his horrific treatment of human beings.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More formally, on May 15, 1942, the Nazis issued an order instructing all Jews to bring all of their pets to collection points where they would be euthanized.

Of course if animals were in the care of the "wrong" human beings then they had to be killed. Fascist ideology has always, and will always, be an incoherent mess of contradictions in service of bigotry.

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[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

While they are alive and conscious.

That's why I fill my lobsters with propofol before cooking them. People always say my dinner parties are a snooze. I don't know why, I always have a good time. Of course, I don't eat lobster.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I mean…this should be framed as an attempt at fixing an urban myth: that lobster tastes best when cooked alive.

I worked in restaurants for years and we always killed them quickly and humanely before we boiled them.

To me this is just low hanging fruit.

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