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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 82 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Germany is wild because it's still infested with nazis and yet they have all these anti-nazi laws which do nothing and the people end up supporting fascists in Israel.

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 59 points 2 years ago (3 children)

a big chunk of the german left is part of the "antideutsch" movement/ideology, whatever you want to call it
the gist of them is that they "compensate" for the horrors of nazi germany by being against the existence of the german state, and also extremely pro-israel

[–] edge@hexbear.net 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

against the existence of the german state

Based.

and also extremely pro-israel

Very not based.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

kinds of people that make monarchists wanting 200 year old german principalities back seem reasonable

[–] daisy@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

This is why I shed no tears for any aristocracy that gets Romanov'd.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Has anyone tried telling them that supporting another genocide won't wash their hands of the Holocaust?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago

That's for their grandchildren to worry about.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

They’re doing the George Michael move where they throw out a banana to compensate for stealing a dollar from the cash register. They think it balances the ledger, but it’s actually doubling the debit

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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Allowing the common understanding of racism to be reduced to mere form, ie vulgar language and overt discrimination, has been disastrous for the real gains made in the late 20th century.

We gotta first of all enforce some standards for antifascist movements. As great as it is to build large numbers, it’s meaningless if there is no well defined, unifying ideology. I bet a lot of these “antifa” in Germany would not give a coherent definition of fascist.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Allowing

Didn't happen in a vacuum.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They have anti-Nazi laws and then pass billion euro funding bills to give heavy weaponry and training to Nazis. Most coherent Westoid nation. Germany is going to have the most convoluted contradictions when the western world goes outright, openly fascist since they have been conditioned to be ashamed of their Nazi past while being proud of their Nazi present.

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Germany is ok with fascism, they just got caught once and have to be a bit more careful

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[–] SineNomineAnonymous@lemmy.ml 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Germany, a country so historically into fascism even antifascists are fascists. And they're the least fascist in the country. Imagine that.

On the bright side, we've found a worse country than France so thats good for the French.

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Germans have a long history of analyzing a problem, starting a school of philosophy around the problem, getting too excited about the analysis phase, and making a hobby of critique-for-the-sake-of-it only to immediately go off the rails into self-contradictory navel gazing. Then blame it all on human psychology and find a new movement/philosophy to kill.

EDIT: On immediate second thought, this is the entire world of Western European academia. God we suck.

[–] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 69 points 2 years ago

“Anti-semitic society demands jews stay in the middle east and not come back and make a rightful claim for reparations for past atrocities”

[–] SineNomineAnonymous@lemmy.ml 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On a separate note, if there absolutely needs to be a state of Israel (lol), it should absolutely be in Germany (im sure they'll love it).

After a few years of course, 90 % of it will be Israel and the German population will be confined to an open air concentration camp and will be slowly genocided. But going by that picture, they should be OK with it.

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

Fuck yeah actually, make the Rhur zionist

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 59 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What the fuck is radical about the status quo lol

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Americans facing some stiff competition in "most propagandized people on earth"

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

naw, they cant touch us

usa is wild with how propagandized we are other countries arent even in the same league

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At least we have an anti-Zionist left and can have pro-Palestine marches. Germans are utterly cucked

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[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When you feel so remorseful for your country's wrongdoings that you want to lick the boots of the country that inspired those wrongdoings.

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like implying that jews or isfaek "inspired" the nazis is a pretty bad way to phrase that.

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

I meant the other flag present at these "protests". Anti-deutsch are Americanophiles.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

The whole "remorse" thing isn't real. It's just used as a cover for political intentions.

The very chud people oppose it, because it symbolizes that German state being submissive or whatever (and antisemitism)

Liberals (the politicians, not random Bozos off the street) use it to enforce the interests of the German state and keep allies happy and business running,while holding onto the mythology of not being Nazi Germany anymore.

Antideutsche use it to denote opposition to foreigners while holding onto mythology of opposing antisemitism within leftist groups (which was partially a thing in the 60s, 70s and 80s)

[–] Buchenstr@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Take a look at those pictures, every single one of them are white.

These guys are the 'anti-germans', while they're against things like nationalism or nazism, they're still racialists, hiding away their racist views by masquerading as 'leftist', people seem to forget many socdems were racist pieces of shit, and these guys are just the same.

Fuck anti-germans, and anyone who shills for them.

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

NATO leftists strike again. Whether it's the "anarchists" of today or the Trotskyists of yesterday, they're always lurking and pretending to be against the Imperial powers before falling right in line with them.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

amerikkka "Germany. Apologize for the holocaust."

"No." germany-cool

amerikkka "Germany, if you apologize, we'll help fund an ethnostate and settler-colony for European zionists. They will commit genocide against Palestinians and make surplus value flow from the MENA region to Europe."

".... I am so so so sorry I did the holocaust. Please believe me." germany-cool

[–] davel@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’d nearly forgotten about that one:
Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and biden is boosting his message by spreading misinformation about hamas beheading babies and other such nonsense

[–] davel@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We need a complete shutdown of Representative Rashida Tlaib until our other Representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.

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[–] Ciel@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

here in germany we call these people antids, their entire ideology comes down to defending israel and snorting cocaine, mixed with occasionally calling every real leftist a red fash

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I knew a Portland Antifa girl who moved to Germany and became one of these people. She really had no principles, just liked to start drama in her affinity groups and attack “tankies” all the time. She had an extreme hatred of Russia and China and started crying and physically attacking me one time when I defended Russia’s operation in Ukraine.

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[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

It seems they've been a native species to Germany since at least 1845

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Apparently some "antifascist" groups in Germany were going to protest Neo Nazis, and some pro-Palestine groups planned on joining the "antifascist" groups but then they ended up cancelling the protest because the pro-Palestine groups were "antisemitic"

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Somewhere a police chief is stuffing himself with krautslop and giggling about his genius plan

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Specifically because the group "Young Struggle" (affiliated with the Turkish MLKP iirc) went "The events of October 7th? Based!" and persisted after being told to not show up.

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

antideutsch, not even once

[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

stalin-pipe come back pls

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

I must appologize for Germ-wu. We trained him wrong - as a joke.

[–] Timberknave@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Wait til you hear those ""people""'s takes on trans people (when these trans people disagree with them)

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lovely to see this while muslims are being compared to cancer and the state has taken to raiding mosques.

Germany has an unquenchable thirst for genocide.

[–] 1heCream@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no wonder die linke exploded

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Leipzig is the stronghold of Antideutsche and tbh it doesn't have much relevance to the split. Antideutsche are mostly a youth wing phenomenon.

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