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Longest federal government shutdown meant data was only collected for second half of November

US prices rose 2.7% in the year to November, according to federal data released a day after Donald Trump claimed they were falling “very fast” on his watch.

The latest consumer price index, released on Wednesday morning, was down from 3% in September, and short of economists’ expectations of about 3.1% for last month.

It comes amid questions over the strength of the US economy. The longest US federal government shutdown in history halted collection of key data. There was no inflation report for October, and data was only collected for the second half of November.

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 58 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're falling up, what else could he possibly have meant?

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 14 points 3 weeks ago

LoL, thank you for ridiculing the ridiculous!!

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

Egg prices are way, way down! They've dropped to $6/dozen, way down from $4.50/dozen last month! Thank you Donald Trump!

(idk what the price of eggs is off the top of my head don't come for me pls)

[–] finley@lemmy.zip 31 points 3 weeks ago

Trump lied‽

WAAAAAAAAA????

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

US prices rose 2.7% in the year to November, according to federal data

That seems fairly mild as inflation statistics go. Like, nevermind Trump being full of shit, I was under the impression cost of living was rising much faster.

Given how the BLS operates, I'm forced to ask whether these figures are even accurate.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Food has definitely gone up more than 2.7%. Around me at least.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Some food more than others, certainly. Beef has been skyrocketing, thanks to the combination drought, disease, and heat wave.

I haven't seen much change on staples like rice and beans, though. We figured out how to produce eggs at scale again. No idea how this plays into inflation statistics, though.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yep. Yogurt prices are crazy. Kids need to start working the mines to eat soon.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

the rises in healthcare, housing, etc aren't part of the inflation index.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

the rises in healthcare, housing, etc aren’t part of the inflation index.

If by the vague term "inflation index" you mean the Consumer Price Index, then yes they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_price_index_in_the_United_States

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sure. But that's a decades-old problem with much deeper roots than the current president.

There's a bigger gulf between Trump and Romney than Romney and Obama. Ds and Rs have largely been in alignment on housing and health care

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Healthcare is very much a Trump problem, and some have seen doubling of the price in December of the health insurance.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ds and Rs have largely been in alignment on [...] health care

Tell me you never read the full plans for Obamacare without using those words.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The full plans didn't pass the Democrat majority controlled House or Senate.

Max Baucus would be better attributed as the author of a "Obama"care, as it was his version of the bill that made it to a floor vote.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The full plans didn’t pass the Democrat majority controlled House or Senate.

As though jettisoning the public option wasn't part of the plan.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It wasn't in the whitepapers Obama is supposed to get credit for. But the compromises and the rug pulls are never in the fine print.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't be surprised to find that 2.7% number written in sharpie

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know how they calculate this, but it seems like the expensive products went up a LOT more than 3% so even if that is the average across products it seems like my actual bill went up a lot more.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Inflation covers everything* but not everything has gone up in price.

  • not literally everything but more than the essentials like groceries
[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's masked by the decline in energy prices, which are manipulated by oil-producing countries to achieve political outcomes: raise energy prices while Democrats are in power, lower them when Trump gets in. That makes it look like he's made the economy better.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are also likely to be revised right?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Probably? Under this administration, idk anymore

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dond Trump told his supporters to reject the evidence of their own eyes and ears. It was his final, most essential command.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago

If only his supporters could read, they'd be very upset about this comparison.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn’t matter. He said they’re falling and the idiots believe him. Remember, over half of Amerikkka’s population are complete fucking morons.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump is a lying asshole, but isn't inflation of 2-3% pretty normal? His problem is he is lying and saying prices are falling. They won't fall. Inflation will just drop down to normal levels, as seems to be happening. The question is whether that will be enough and whether wages increase enough to match price rises from normal inflation. Especially of there is an AI crash.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

2-3% is normal, but not after periods of high inflation. Generally you would want some period of, at least, low inflation. No inflation would be far better

His claim of falling prices would be deflation, which is an economic condition that spooks most people (personally though, I think fears of short-term deflation are overblown)

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, the whole point is that he is telling bold faced lies.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

"Trump Lies Again!" should be the headline. How safe the media is being while being raped by bored billionaires.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We are way overdue for wage growth

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

republicans and centrist democrats worked together to make sure that didn't happen. And they will continue to do so for as long as possible.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then those democrats and republicans need to go

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that's never happening. Democrats protect centrist incumbents and prefer republicans to progressives.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That will happen, and it needs to happen

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It needs to happen, which is why it won't.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It will happen, and it must

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

How will it happen?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

And the gazelles will slice their own faces off and throw them to the leopards, while bragging about their faceless visages being beautiful.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

The headline is phrased like his claims would do anything

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

Believe me, we’re aware.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Well yeah. What do expect from him? The truth??? Thats communist propaganda

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Another one to chalk up to how many failures of this emerging dictatorship, this fucking Iron Heel.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I’m sure those numbers aren’t tweaked af. I doubt they are completely making them up. But they are doing everything they can to doctor the numbers. This administration has repeatedly shown how untrustworthy they are. Why would anyone believe the cpi they release?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

No, they're just making them up.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Claims are for liars.