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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This idea of the 'oppression Olympics' has been an off-again, on-again thing in rw circles for awhile now. They love to paint their opponents, who are mostly asking for the same rights enjoyed by others, as these huge unreasonable villains that think of themselves as misunderstood, but are really just evil.

This, of course, is mostly just projection on their part.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Beat me to it. Like the 2010s was all about fascists going on about how nazis are actually just funny tumblr sexymen and just sad and misunderstood blorbos because no one can get their genius.

They Draco in Leather Pants’d nazis for a whole decade. Why do you think the only acceptable non-fascist to them is Daryl Davis? The guy who went on about how klansmen are all sad and misunderstood paragons just in need of a big hug and constant glazing and they might change their ways?

CHUDs love being part of the angry mob, and thinkers are not welcome in the mob. So they need their thought terminating cliches.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's almost hard to believe people this unintelligent and up their own ass exist in these numbers

Even at 14 these takes would have disgusted me, and I was a complete dipshit

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The biggest mistake the left ever made was internalizing the right’s critique of us being “elitist” because we’re too intelligent to follow the herd.

Yes, nuance is important and freethinking is good. Sorry we can’t all be mindless tribalists.

“Grug tribe good, other tribe bad! Grug smash!” Fucking caveman philosophy.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Overwhelmingly, the thing that estranges leftists from society is being minoritized in various ways, and beyond that it is a matter of education. "Intelligence" has very little to do with it and viewing other people as mindless is inaccurate, personally unhealthy, and counterproductive to socialist organizing.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Right, like as much as I want to mock fascism with such a simplistic worldview. This cannot be the case. Elites, masses and rebels and so on.

Thanks for regularly reassuring me things aren’t as bleak as they seem. I may sound like a brick wall but I really appreciate it.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

I just need to remember that I don't deal with the shit you deal with, and even for a well-meaning person (as I believe you are), circumstances like that make it really tough to not hate everything.

I feel like there must be some way for me (or anyone else attempting to intervene) to approach this conversation more effectively, but I can't think of anything. Do you have any ideas for this?

[–] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Reactionaries seem to get really upset about the notion of morality being anything other than black and white. These comments remind me of drama that reactionaries on twitter stirred up a while back regarding Emily Wilson's translation of the Odyssey. There was obviously a lot of sexism surrounding that discourse, but one thing I noticed was that the marble statue pfp guys were really upset about the first line in Wilson's translation, which described Odysseus as "a complicated man". Countless posters who couldn't give less of a fuck about the classics were absolutely shitting themselves over the idea that Odysseus is not a perfect hero with zero flaws. Obviously that particular case has a lot to do with sexism and the idealization of a powerful white man, but more broadly I think fascists lean hard into the idea of black and white morality because it helps cultivate the "us vs them" mentality that fascism needs to survive. Seeing morality as black and white also inevitably leads to the conclusion that people are either inherently evil or inherently good, and that it's something which is absolute and unchanging, which of course fits really well with an ideology that likes killing people based on immutable characteristics like race or sexuality

[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Countless posters who couldn't give less of a fuck about the classics were absolutely shitting themselves over the idea that Odysseus is not a perfect hero with zero flaws

Love this. "Yeah, I like stories where the morality is black and white, like Macbeth."

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Important quote from the article ‘everyone needs to grow up’

certain kind of kitsch infantilism was always a feature of Nazi art, which was hostile to moral ambiguity and formal complexity. Hitler himself was a Disney adult. If the desire to relinquish responsibility for your own life can be considered an infantile trait, it’s easy to see why this would make you more susceptible to authoritarianism.

Link to article

CW: Article has some bad takes, but its dunk of the right is spot on.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

authoritarianism

cringe

EDIT: Also heavily implies that people with ADHD are lying about their symptoms. Can't say I'm a fan of the article, lol

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Jesus, sorry I didn’t warn about that. Added a CW.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

“there is no ethical consumption under capitalism” has morphed into “there is no unethical consumption under capitalism”

damn good line

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hot take: Macbeth is black and white, in that royals and aristocrats are inherently evil and unacceptable regardless of their inner existence. "Oh Macbeth feels stuff or has motivations or whatever" who cares he's a royal straight to the gui-better along with the rest of the characters and be done with it.

Same for Odysseus: he's a slaving war criminal landlord, and so is pure evil.

If you take a principled anti-monarchist stance, a whole lot of fantasy and historical fiction becomes a lot simpler in that the answer is they all suck and should lose.

spoilerI'm obviously exaggerating this a bit for comedic effect. Although I do firmly hold that one should still view fiction through the lens of seeing monarchism and aristocracy and the like as intrinsically evil things that make characters bad people and their motivations and status fundamentally unjustified, for all that they can still be interesting despite this.

[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think Shakespeare does a pretty good job of painting royals as insufferable narcissists and having everyone lose at the end, IMO there's a lot of dry humor in his plays that can get missed in more "serious" analyses.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Very tangentially related, but I just remembered the gag from Mass Effect about the Elcor director doing a production of Hamlet that had a tagline about "enabling audiences to judge Hamlet for his actions, rather than his emotions and feelings", that went along with snippets of evenly paced, completely monotone deliveries of lines from it where the character's tone is just explicitly stated before the line.

Much as the series' overall writing was kind of shit, there were some pretty good gags slipped in as background dialogue or in-universe ads like that.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Jeez, Shrek never would have flied today.

An ogre just wants to be left alone? Constantly have to deal with angry mobs, explains how people don’t actually know his real depth and just judge him based on looks and whatever is “easier”, and it’s actually the charismatic monarch who’s the villain? Yeah, Twitter would blow a gasket.

Shrek needs to be our Pepe, Gritty was fun almost a decade ago but we need to bring back shrekposting to its former glory.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

You're expecting too much ideological consistency.

Is the character in question our main focus? Are their actions broadly framed as good? If yes, then yankees will self-identify with them, regardless of what actual shape the narrative has.

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

They should play some of the Wolfenstein games. They always portray the villains as objectively evil. They'd love that, right? Right?

[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

There's no such thing as a misunderstood villain, there's only a society that let's them be. No villain ever exists in a bubble, that's just a self-destructive person.

I knew a guy who had excellent social skills, he even decided to befriend me the loner in class, then he started doing Hitler apologia during history lessons and used those same social skills to convince the class to play an SS division's choir at an event.

Why? Because people just let him get away with it. Focusing on the villains completely ignores the fact that there's often way more people just looking at the villain and doing absolutely nothing.

Also I'm sorry if this already is discussed in the video I do not have time to watch rn trans-sad

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

Some people just hate anything that asks them to do any kind of thinking. They get genuinely angry if forced to exercise their brain in the same way that a lot of people get genuinely angry if you make them do like 30 seconds of cardio. This exercising of their brain is physically exhausting for them.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago
[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

ask them if they think the “austrian painter” was simply misunderstood

[–] nasezero@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Americans when IRL doesn’t follow MCU logic and you know right away who the good guys and bad guys are.

boowomp

Americans when in IRL, the bad guy isn’t always who’s being rooted against.

boowomp

Americans when they embraced the media having them hate the oppressed and loving the people doing the oppressing!

boowomp

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Seems like standard right wing groupthink, the "bad guys" (us-foreign-policy) need to be inherently evil, so the conservative can be inherently good by default, without actually needing to do anything anyone would consider good or moral. That last guy in particular is projecting like crazy.

Also hilarious how these are the people calling everyone else an NPC when they always just get the exact same thoughts pushed into their heads by the conservative mouthpieces they watch, none of these guys have ever had an original thought in their lives.

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i mean it's literally true of zionists and western chauvinists. they see themselves as oppressed and set-upon, but the actions they take are pure evil

Yeah my first thought after reading OP was "zero selfawareness"

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dragon Ball fans: “Act natural.”

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Warcraft fans: launch the ballistic tirade full of greyest moral relativism about horde

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: