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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 187 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Once you've tried VIM, you'll never go back.

Mostly because you won't be able to exit VIM.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I would use word for this, but I can’t close vim. I guess I’m learning LaTeX.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Last night, I was talking to my brother - who's a mathematician by trade - and learned the following from him:

LaTeX is Leslie Lamport's (hence La) macro package on top of TeX.

I've never used it, but for around fifteen years I've been working around people who do ... And yet I never knew that.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I used it a lot for university… and I did not know that.

I did migrate to pandoc and markdown for a lot of stuff, with custom template files.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

An abyssal panda using pandoc. Who could have seen it coming.

Markdown is very useful, but I don't think I've ever written enough to earn template files.

My brother is one of the two smartest people I know and knows a lot of things I didn't know I didn't know. He's earned a lot of respect from me.

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[–] famijoku@feddit.org 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

:q (my face in reaction to this)

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[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 92 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 31 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I used LibreOffice Writer for my coursework the past semester, and when I used my spouse’s Windows computer to double check the images were correctly placed before submitting a paper they were on completely different pages. This was when I saved it as a .docx, because the only two options accepted were .docx or pdf. I wound up doing everything as a pdf if I needed images, but I think LibreOffice doesn’t have a save as pdf option? Or if it did I missed it, I just used Google Docs to save it as a pdf.

[–] theorangeninja@sopuli.xyz 77 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

IIRC you have to use the "Export as" option instead of the "Save as" for a .pdf file.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Good to know, at the time my brain was absolutely fried so it doesn’t surprise me that I missed it, lol

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[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 36 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

LibreOffice has a native export to PDF. And, if you use (almost) any Linux, you have a PDF printer included.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

LibreOffice is as good as Word. Which sadly means there are still no really good document editors out there.

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

And unwanted AI features!

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (14 children)

People aren't paying for Word, they're paying for Excel and getting all the other goodies included.

Yeah, LibreOffice is fine for home use, maybe even really small businesses that don't have to trade spread sheets with external customers, but Excel is the killer app.

Calc's a fine spread sheet program, but it's frustrating as hell after using Excel for 30+ years. You can't trust that it will properly import an Excel sheet and it sure won't do macros.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

100% for real. I simply can't do freelancing Excel work with LibreOffice because I know the 1:1 compatibility falls apart quickly. Basic formulas are about as far as I can trust it.

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 37 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

expecting word to edit pdfs is like expecting excel to edit compiled matlab programs

[–] anosym@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Also I don't see the problem with the other two.
Move image? Works fine if you select the right wrapping.
Ignore spelling mistake? Right click -> ignore once / ignore all / add to dictionary

[–] arudesalad@piefed.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago

From my experience with word, ignore spelling mistake is a lie, it always starts complaining again eventually (and changing spelling from us to uk almost never works)

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

LaTeX supremacy has entered that chat

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[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I got so frustrated trying to use Word to write a document at work that I just gave up and wrote the whole damn thing in LaTeX. Lots of nested bulleted lists (or worse, numbered lists) and Word do not play nicely.

Sucks to be the guy who has to edit it when I'm gone.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

You know it's bad when I prefer a nice markdown editor to word lol

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[–] arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That's how I feel about most Microsoft products actually.

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

TGFM - Thank God for Markdown

Seriously, though. 9 times out of 10, markdown has all the formatting I need for the task at hand. On the rare occasion I need something more, I’m glad I have access to Apple Pages, but it comes with its own set of unique challenges.

[–] green_copper@kbin.earth 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My choice of file-format for documents sorted by complexity of the content:

  1. Markdown
  2. Orgmode
  3. Typst
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[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] nsfw936421@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

To be fair PDFs are not meant to be edited (especially not by Word). PDFs are the product not the source. It's like trying to "edit" the ingredients of a cake after it's finished. You don't edit the cake, you edit the recipe and make a new cake.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Want to edit the header just on page 6? Or feel like being sexy and having a single page in landscape or a different size?

Easy! Just make a bunch of separate documents, export them as PDFs, and merge them in Adobe Acrobat.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I agree lots of things about word sucks. But FYI single page landscape is achieved by using two section breaks. It's not ideal, but its somewhat understandable given how styles are prioritized. I've tried others that work well, but they also suffer on things that word does well that we take for granted.

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[–] HolidayGreed@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Used Microsoft Works in the early 2000's. Only discontinued in 2009 apparently.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

At one point, Microsoft was maintaining three different word processors.

  • Word, the top of the line component of the flagship Office product
  • Works, their "for home and small business" product that was honestly good enough for basically everyone, to the point you have to ask why anyone would buy Office, which is almost certainly why Works got canned, and
  • Wordpad, because a GUI OS is basically useless without a rich text editor.
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[–] djdarren@piefed.social 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Word is the proof that God exists and he's still real fuckin' pissy about that apple.

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[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You using complex file formats for vendor lock in

Me using complex file formats because my code base is shite.

We are not the same

[–] Sharlot@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The real miracle isn’t Word’s features, it’s how it’s still the default after decades of collective pain.

[–] banause@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

!yourjokebutworse@lemmy.world

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

As someone that recalls using Word 5.5 in DOS for a book report in 5th grade, as with all things, the peak has come and gone.

IMO, the enshittification curve started about 2010ish when MS demanded internet connectivity for features that didn't work. Saving PDFs was its peak. RIP Word 2007, which I used well into 2015.

[–] FingerFrickenGood@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Who knew being a monopoly and anti competitive would be so profitable.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 weeks ago

Editing PDFs is not a feature the format natively supports (or supported?).
To me the crappiest "feature" is that M$ intentionally disregards their own document standard to EEE the ecosystem and vendor-lock their consumers.

[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

My favourite feature is the insanely counter-intuitive indenting and bullet points.

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