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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Truthfully it is impossible if for no other reason than that you can't easily say what counts as "imperialist propaganda" or an "American movie or TV show" to begin with.

Like if Cats 101 puts stock Vaguely Middle Eastern flute music for 15 seconds in its Egyptian mau segment, does that count as imperialist propaganda? It exoticizes Ancient Egypt, playing into orientalist tropes that form part of the ideology of imperialism. Or does it not count as imperialist propaganda, because you're still learning about a country in the Global South, which could inspire further curiosity? Or do these things cancel each other out? Or does it depend on the viewer's personal interpretation as guided by their personality and circumstances? Does the depiction of domesticated carnivores and cat shows promote classism and speciesism and lay the seeds of white supremacy blood quantum shit, more cornerstones of the ideology of imperialism?

How about The Mythbusters? Does that count as imperialist propaganda because they don't do land acknowledgements for the Alameda Bomb Range? They made use of Miwok land without the permission of the Miwok people and present this as normal and fine. Hell, because that bomb range is located right next to a jail and the crew had to cooperate with the sheriff's office to use it, does that mean it's copaganda too? Another component of imperialist ideology? Or is there some revolutionary use for a TV show that gets young minds interested in ballistics and science in general? Or do these things cancel each other out, or does it depend on the individual viewer's interpretation as guided by their personality and circumstances?

There is imperialist propaganda everywhere for those with eyes to see. At the same time, you can never fully account for the dialectical relationship between the text and the audience.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

There is imperialist propaganda everywhere for those with eyes to see

kitty-cri-screm

Some of it can be easy to slide but watching tv often feels like an infuriating experience because a lot of it appears in plain sight and barely hidden at least for the casual tv-show/movie

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

shrek Shrek

A Bug's Life

Ants

A lot of animated movies really.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

One could probably pick enough out but I have watched very few of those doggirl-sweat

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)
  1. The Land Before Time
  2. The Land Before Time II
  3. The Land Before Time III
  4. The Land Before Time IV
  5. The Land Before Time V
  6. The Land Before Time VI
  7. The Land Before Time VII
  8. The Land Before Time VIII
  9. The Land Before Time IX
  10. The Land Before Time X
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[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago (5 children)
  1. American Sniper
  2. Die Hard
  3. Red Dawn
  4. Delta Farce
  5. The Hurt Locker
  6. Range 15
  7. Zero Dark Thirty
  8. Rambo
  9. Birth of a Nation
  10. all Steven Seagal movies

Easy. America doesn’t make propaganda. It makes truth.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

Rambo

I think you mean Rambo II. Rambo 1 is horrible propaganda that suggests that the US doesn't treat their veterans with respect!

[–] i_drink_bleach@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago
  1. all Steven Seagal movies

Your Honor, this man couldn't figure out how a gun works if you paid him. And they did. And he didn't. Your Honer, I rest my case.

Also: Is this "vibe operating?"

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

You forgot Black Cock Drown

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

SEVEN SEAGULLS?!

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Going to go ahead and say that Breaking Bad, while subtextually a scathing critique of the American healthcare system and capitalist greed, doesn't count because of the Mexico piss filter

Andor's pretty legit, though. Maybe Black Sails? Also, Cabin Boy (1994) is too incomprehensible to propagandize much of anything, let alone imperialism.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I haven't heard of Black Sails but I will have to give it a try doggirl-smart

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Blacks Sails is so good. Fair warning the first season is basically them trying to make pirate game of thrones, CW sexual assault etc.

But then they flip a switch around season 2 and suddenly it's way queerer and historical materialist.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sounds great! doggirl-thumbsup I will definitely make it a point to watch it till and after season 2 then.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

here's the ep to skip if you want to avoid it

One caveat: It hits a nadir on episode 4 (think of "Game of Thrones"-style depiction of sexual assault, although not quite as bad), but then it takes off.

from https://xcancel.com/RodericDay/status/1419409233066475528

[–] miz@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

the name Red Sails is inspired by the show

Black Sails.

Thinly disguised allegory about the Russian Revolution set in the fictional pirate republic of Nassau.

It's got imperialist siege, purges, civil war, famine, support for anti-colonial revolutions... remarkably complete.

Naturally nobody sung its praises. 😂

from https://xcancel.com/RodericDay/status/1326650751482028036

This is why I insist on "Black Sails."

I don't know how Jon Steinberg convinced Michael Bay to pay for 4 seasons of "Pirate Lenin's Revolt Against Britain," but he did!

And it's the only amazing revolutionary portrayal you'll find at that budget tier.

As usual with my threads, the final advice is "read theory."

In this case, the theory recommendation is "Black Sails."

I'm not being cute, I'm not being funny. If you like @RedSailsOrg you should watch "Black Sails."

from https://xcancel.com/RodericDay/status/1758623026168390082

[–] miz@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

weird connection:

Steinberg is also the brother-in-law of Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

My heart wants to say Adventure Time but I can't even say for sure. Ain't nobody reachin' 10 lol maybe you could get 10 books by American authors but they always strip the good shit out for the movies and shows. Like Jurassic Park.

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

Adventure Time is crypto-monarchist

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Don't worry 98% of the class will fail doggirl-smart (I once had a smug professor that used to say stuff like that because he would purposely make it too difficult)

Books would probably be easier. Books that were turned into movies? I am not too sure

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 13 points 4 months ago

Well if you just include books they can just look for books written by American anarchists or communists and probably get it easy. It definitely has to relate to like movies, tv, and wider pop culture (cause we know probably about half or more of Americans dont even read). Obligatory subtext is a CIA psyop.

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
  1. Mel Gibson's The Patriot

  2. Song of the South (Live-Action Segments)

  3. Soul Man

  4. Big Mama's House

  5. Big Mama's House 2

  6. Big Mama's House 3

  7. White Chicks

  8. Little Man

  9. 50 Shades of Black

  10. Tom Hanks' Big

Heh, give me a hard one next time. doggirl-smug

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Our Russian Front, The North Star, Mission to Moscow, Days of Glory, The Boy from Stalingrad, The Battle of Russia, Miss V from Moscow, Russian Rhapsody, Song of Russia, Three Russian Girls.

bang. easy.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

oooaaaaaaauhhh

Thanks for the list doggirl-thumbsup

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[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

phoenix-bashful I should have said from different directors or something catgirl-flop

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

eddington, where everyone is a bad person except the pueblo cop

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Everyone is a bad person except the cop

fry

[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This reminds me of a work colleague who got furious that The Battle at Lake Changjin was Chinese propaganda, and also furiously masturbates over the Top Gun movies.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

and also furiously masturbates over the Top Gun movies.

With those shirtless volleyball scenes, I can't really blame him.

[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

shrug-outta-hecks as the bible says i think, let he whom hath not jorkt it, serve the first sweaty volleyball.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

Average day in reddit-logo

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Uhhh... the very hungry and not imperialist propaganda caterpillar

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm a horror movie fan, this constitutes most of the stuff I watch (not EVERYTHING, just most)

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

The one genre I avoid the most scared

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[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
  1. Oceans 11
  2. Tower Heist
  3. Baby Driver
  4. Fast Five
  5. The Usual Suspects
  6. Inception
  7. Jackie Brown
  8. Oceans 8
  9. Oceans 13
  10. Point Break
[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with Oceans 12???

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t remember a 100% about all the movies I listed but I was going for “grand larceny on US soil”

edit: wait damn inception shouldn’t count

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