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Conservative political analysis seen floating around twitter.

Mohammad killed the entire population of the globe in his era (circa 600 CE). Now that's impressive

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[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Ever notice how these images always make Hitler's death count the lowest?

[–] mickey@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah we got the wild undercount of deaths from fascism, the "Nazis were socialists actually" trope, making up numbers + blaming deaths under communism e.g. famine on the ideology; those are all pretty familiar. I haven't seen the wild ass 300,000,000 killed by Islam before, and the very cheeky bonus of getting to smuggle in a picture of the prophet.

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would bet a modest amount of money that they padded that number out with Muslims killed by the crusades. I feel like to get there you have to punch religious wars involving Islam into google, and then just add up all the casualties with no thought given to the instigator or even which side the casualty was killed by. Or honestly that's probably more work than was put into this, they probably just asked Grok how many people were killed by Islam and that's the number Elon had hard coded.

[–] mickey@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

When you suggested the tabulated from half-assed Google research I thought "that's way to much effort" but you covered that

they probably just asked Grok

Also don't ask them who sacked Constantinople.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

Yup. Few people are going to fall for "Hitler never did anything wrong and the Nazis were good actually" but it is a lot more easy to convince people that the designated enemies of the white empire, who we have been groomed to hate and fear from an early age, were worse than the Nazis.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

thats the point

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

and how the "Islamist"s death count the highest lol.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

It's a surprisingly complex layered piece propaganda for being complete slop.

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mohammad killed the entire population of the globe circa 600 CE

I don't mean to be an asshole but as an American this figure means absolutely nothing to me. I need you to explain it in terms of 9/11's.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Imagine a 9/11, but in every building everywhere, your house, your neighbour's house, the local 7/11, the local Denny's, the IHOP, everywhere.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

OK but how many football fields of burgers are we talking here?

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

what about waffle house?

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now do Christianity and Capitalism!

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

no that's different they were all personal failings 😤

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Are the Stalin death counts just all of the casualties (exaggerated) of the Russian civil war, but Stalin gets all of the blame and the antisemites get none of it? I never really understood how this works. All of the petty white Russian landlords, nobles, and bourgeoisie that had to be overthrown seem like they should be responsible.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Once upon a time, someone came up with a number and a (half-assed) justification, and since then every subsequent reteller has just added another million to it

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Stalin killed 60% of the Soviet Union. You would think there would've been a revolution against him.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

think-about-it Can't have a revolution if there's no population left to revolt.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also the population wouldn’t be increasing by millions every few years if over 60% were systematically killed over a decade or so… almost like it’s an absolutely immaterial claim with no basis other than trying to prove a point

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

It's like the Chinese genocide in Xinjiang. There's no bodies and the population grew, but it definitely happened.

[–] ourtimewillcome@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

and the antisemites get none of it?

I have always found it strange that Westerners who criticize the White Army always seem to narrowly focus on the anti-Semitism of the reactionaries, completely ignoring or glossing over the atrocities committed against everyone else. Are the Slavic, Turkic, Roma, and Finno-Ugric peoples of the former Russian Empire considered less than human, or if not, why do they never seem to be included in Western estimates of the number of people killed, both by the Whites and by the Nazis?

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Are the Slavic, Turkic, Roma, and Finno-Ugric peoples of the former Russian Empire considered less than human,

they only know some of those groups, but yes.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

They're not too worried about the antisemitism either.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Often times they include all of the deaths of the eastern front of WW2 and will sometimes even go so far as to assume hypothetical children those people could have had and add them to the list as well.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we adopted similar methodology for capitalism we would arrive at billions, considering centuries of colonialism.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Ah, but those colonised peoples just failed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, it's their own fault really.

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

The white army representing the moneyed classes are entitled to kill their lessers so their numbers don't count per standard liberal cosmology

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The already very unserious Black Book of Communism blames the Soviet Union for 20 million deaths. The Black Book was published in 1997, so the Soviet Union must have claimed another 42 millions deaths in the last 3 decades by no longer existing.

It feels like the purpose of this slop is to make the other anticommunists seem more credible by comparison.

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

as i have said before, 300+ million is a very conservative "estimate" for these people. don't get shocked if you see 1+ billion out in the wild.

also a reminder that israel strategy to counteract their negative PR for the genocide is to fuel islamophobia. do not let people get away from posting shit like this.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I had a guy tell me that Mao killed between 50 and 70M from "relocations", in addition to 30M from the famine. I asked him "what relocations?" but never got an answer. I think he was getting his wires crossed with Stalin.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Mao killed everyone in China, 4 times in a row! Maoist necromancy is as powerful as Juche Necromancy

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Shit like this is so bad it is poisoning AI search results which has an intersting time contradicting itself and trying to blame the deaths on that infamous Soviet Oppression during WW2 jagoff

No...but yes here's the source National WW2 museum stating 24 Million Soviet deaths (which would make 20 Million an underestimate) and then falsely misrepresents it's own source still by saying 8.4 million military and 11 million Civillian (which would put it closer to 30 million). Even NATOpedia says about 27 Million though 20 Million was the official number the Soviets ran with. .... but but but smuglord COMMUNIST OPPRESSION!

I think whoever programed this is hard coded to bullshit the user about WW2...er 'sensitive topics'. Grok you have some competition.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

20 million exceeds [...] 24 million

monke-beepboop

[–] LadyCajAsca@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Brave AI doing that is.. unsurprising considering what company runs it

Describing Fachism as Socialism is a HARD nogo!

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's because of the Sino-Soviet split, Stalin personally ordered everyone to start spelling it comnunism to differentiate the USSR from China.

Source: it-is-known

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Its pronounced "cum-none-ism" and is the ideological underpinning of the volcel vanguard. Put some respect on it.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Commnunism is just the Poor Clairs