this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2023
464 points (96.2% liked)

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

54612 readers
402 users here now

⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don't request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don't request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don't submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others



Loot, Pillage, & Plunder

📜 c/Piracy Wiki (Community Edition):


💰 Please help cover server costs.

Ko-Fi Liberapay
Ko-fi Liberapay

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

These are all the torrents currently managed and released by Anna’s Archive. For more information, see “Our projects” on the Datasets page. For Library Genesis and Sci-Hub torrents, the Libgen.li torrents page maintains an overview.

These torrents are not meant for downloading individual books. They are meant for long-term preservation.

Torrents with “aac” in the filename use the Anna’s Archive Containers format. Torrents that are crossed out have been superseded by newer torrents, for example because newer metadata has become available. Some torrents that have messages in their filename are “adopted torrents”, which is a perk of our top tier “Amazing Archivist” membership.

You can help out enormously by seeding torrents that are low on seeders. If everyone who reads this chips in, we can preserve these collections forever. This is the current breakdown:

Status Torrents Size Seeders
🔴 54 154.0TB <4
🟡 183 92.5TB 4–10
🟢 111 17.2TB >10

IMPORTANT: If you seed large amounts of our collection (50TB or more), please contact us at AnnaArchivist@proton.me so we can let you know when we deprecate any large torrents.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It seems the majority of the torrents with poor seeder count are in the 1.5TB+ range. I just simply don't have the storage for that. Most everything in the 0-300GB range is pretty well covered.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Agreed. I'd like to share a bit of disk storage but I only have 2 TB and I need that for my own consumption.
Give us smaller torrents (e.g. 50GB parts) instead.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

You can easilly select those files from a given torrent which you would like to download and seed.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you make the torrent software automatically rotate which content it preserves based on the files with the fewest copies in the Swarm ? I don't want to manage this manually or have to select files by hand.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)
[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me with only 250GB ssd in an intel nuc lmao

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] lixus98@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are smaller torrents < 80gb go take a look on their website

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Those have enough seeds for now.

[–] matey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you partially seed some of a larger torrent?

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Yes. When downloading the torrent, go to the files list for that torrent and un-check boxes. Resist the urge to leave only the first files in the list(as most people will do this leaving few-if-anyone seeding the rest), **and try instead to grab files from the middle or end, or just be random about it.

When the torrent finishes downloading the files you've selected, it will automatically seed those portions of the torrent which you have downloaded.

EDIT: I just remembered, some torrent programs will actually show you the seed ratio per file in the torrent. There are reasons hardly anyone is (sincerely) trying to reinvent this wheel.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 1 year ago

Who thought it was a good idea to have single torrents of multiple TB??

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Bruh, this is a terrible way to share this. Why not torrents of the raw material in predefined categories that won't change? Like "1984 - Sci-Fi - English - A-N", "1984 - Sci-Fi - English - O-Z", "1990 - Biology", "2012 - Physics". Then people would actually even download this to use it themselves, instead of some archive that has to be extracted and will take a multitude of the space again.

The hell am I going to do with a 300GB archive file that I cannot even look into? I might as well be storing an encrypted blob 300GB large or just reducing the size of my partition by 300GB.

It's great that people want to preserve human knowledge, but there surely are better ways to do this.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] DengueDucky@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's unclear to me how these torrents are used. If individual books are not downloaded from them, is this only to make it possible to create similar sites in the future, in case this one is taken down?

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are meant for long-term preservation.

This is basically a "distributed backup" of the entire database. The torrents are not actively serving files- they're there to store multiple copies of the main database across the globe so that the entire database can be recovered (by anyone with the requisite knowledge, mind you) in the event that something happens to the original Anna's Archive team or the main database is lost/seized by "law enforcement".

It's equivalent to how backup managers in ye olden days would make broken up piece files of a certain size that could fit onto a CD or DVD, so you could fit the entire contents of a large 20+GB hard drive onto multiple smaller media. The backup itself is not accessed unless your main hard drive crashes, in which case you reassemble all the individual pieces back into your complete OS environment after replacing the hard drive.

[–] Bread@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a spare 100 or so Terabytes and I can fit roughly another quarter petabyte in my server. I would like to help. I will look more into this potentially tomorrow when I have some free time. The preservation of knowledge is too important.

[–] c0mmando@links.hackliberty.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Bread@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have a few questions as you appear to be part of the archive or at least very familiar with it.

Roughly how often are the archives updated?

Do you guys already have a proper backup method or are your seeds acting as that backup?

Any idea realistically how much bigger the archive can get data wise in the next few years? Estimates or educated guesses are fine. I want to know how much I need to plan in advance.

If I take the whole archive, must I deploy it or can it be searched through if I have the whole thing and I want something specific out of it?

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately I don't have enough storage space to seed. Is there any other way to help?

[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago

The torrents are broken up into smaller pieces - don't be intimidated by the big TB numbers from the sum total. Otherwise donations are always useful.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Torrents that are crossed out have been superseded by newer torrents, for example because newer metadata has become available.

Wait, fr? These aren't even the final versions of the torrents? You might start seeding multiple terabytes of data and someone goes "lol nm here's _final_final_3.aac" Absolutely bonkers way to do this. Put hard drives in an arctic vault or something, it would make more sense than this.

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Id happily seed a tb or so of the most in-danger torrents. My internet aint much but my old pc is almost always on.
How do I know which of the piece torrents are high or low on seeders? Maybe I'm just being special or can't see it on mobile but is there no way to check each torrent's health without actually downloading every piece and putting it in my torrent client?

[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The health is listed next to each piece at this URL: https://annas-archive.org/torrents

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

Ah perfect. I'll throw some of the 300gb archives on my rig when I get home.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

These torrents are not meant for downloading individual books. They are meant for long-term preservation.

What does this mean? If download one of the those torrents it won't have usable PDFs/Epubs? Just random encoded garbage in some obscure format? So much for preservation. When their website is taken down and they'll in jail nobody will be able to use the torrents , so why seed them anyways?

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The torrents are to preserve the archive as a whole and not individual books or documents. The entire archive is ~263TB's which is far more storage than most people have in their home. So instead they broke it up into bits that were more palatable for most that when combined make the whole again. Like a huge .rar from back in the day.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope you are wrong. A big multi-part archive can't normally be operated if any part is missing. I hope they do separate zips of a smaller size, like 100gb chunks of random books. By looking at one person's comment it seems the largest compilations are very unpopular.

IME with libgen torrents, the filenames will be a random number-string generated by their database, and they might have extentions removed or garbled, but generally these files are actual eBooks/Articles/whatever.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're reciting their bullshit. I don't care about the size, what I care is that there's no documentation on the format they're using and nobody speaking about how to use those torrents.

Those guys made a lot with their website but that format is totally bullshit. If they truly cared about preservation they wouldn't be sharing obscure format s instead they would just provide a simple sharded backup of the metadata and files - meaning that anyone could pick one part and the contents would be the actual PDF/ePub files without any special encoding. This approach would've been better in multiple ways:

  1. If most parts are lost the remaining would still be available and usable;
  2. If the guys vanish from the surface of the planet anyone could easily pick up the available parts and build a new library from them;
  3. Simple sharded backup means that people could use those torrents to download books as well, just add the torrent and pick the specific file to download. This would make the torrents way more likely to be shared and seeded as most people could afford to keeps parts or specific books they want and not an entire 300GB torrent. For what's worth individualism and selfishness always win in society, giving people a usable sharded backup would make it more likely to last.

What I see is the the guys running the website are just asking people to share HDD space to keep their database intact in case of legal trouble so they can rebuilt, but they choose to do it in a way that makes it really hard for others to replicate what they've build from their files effectively creating a monopoly on their stuff. Too bad this behavior just fucks up the community if they go away and can't / don't want to come back.


Edit: let me even got further on this. If they were actually interested in preservation they would just provide all their files as individual torrents/magnets people could use both for downloading and seeding long term. Then they could just provide a file with a list of all magnets or a zip of all torrent files in order to allow seeders to preserve large chunks of the database with minimal effort - import all torrents in folder and done.

[–] c0mmando@links.hackliberty.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

of course it will.. but downloading 150 TB is overkill if you want one book

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] kylian0087@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Perhaps reseeding on I2P is also a good option

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

RIP whoever ends up getting a copy without knowing of the TBs needed

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll set this up this weekend, thanks for the heads up (salute emoji)

[–] lixus98@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

Just got a 300gb torrent to seed for a while. It won't be on 24/7 but most of the day it will.

[–] chromeo@leminal.space 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is a seedbox necessary or will qbittorrent with a VPN work?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 6 points 1 year ago

I'd gladly donate a few TB, but Not about to fill my entire array for books i'll never read...

load more comments
view more: next ›