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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I've read through the Bible cover to cover three times. Amplified, NIV, and New King James with a copy of Strongs.

I'm an atheist now.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

The bible reads like any other religious text. It is impossible for all religions to be true, but it is possible for them all to be false. With no strong evidence proving the bible to be true, there is no reason to accept it over any other religion.

[–] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I think they are saying reading those books are the reason.

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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Bible is pretty fallible when looking at it objectively IMO. But the nail in the coffin was contrasting what the Bible asks of us vs what Christianity does. The tyrannical cheeto is as close to the antichrist as we've seen and they're all gaga for him as an example. But I've been disillusioned since Obama's first election. The terrible and false things "the church" and soon to be former church friends said about him was next level bullshit. Yet when I highlighted that the Bible clearly says the worst relationship we have with man is our relationship with Christ landed in def ears.

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[–] Kraiden@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not op, but for me it was the fact that the supposedly ineffable word of God turned out to be pretty effible

It wasn't the first step towards losing faith, or even the last, but it was pretty troubling to a young me

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[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I used to, because my parents did and I went to church and all that.

But then I started to actually think about it.

Now I don't believe in anything supernatural.
There are parts of nature we don't understand (yet) but I don't think there's any 'higher power' that created the universe, and especially not earth or humankind specifically.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don’t have a religion, but consider myself to be “religiously neutral.” Either smart men from all over are running the same scam — or there are common bits of wisdom in most religions and there may be something to that. Either way, I ultimately believe in Humanism, I suppose. That humans are inherently good, or want to be, and/or enough actually are.

I do not believe in anything original myself. It’s all academic to me.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

or there are common bits of wisdom in most religions and there may be something to that.

The entire point of religion is to make important rules followed.

When a food is banned, it's because that food was killing people when the rules were written. Abrahamic religions don't like sex that doesn't make babies, because they all start as persecuted cults by the main branches and the fastest way to grow is to have kids born into it.

It's obviously all outdated, but it boils down to how you'd convince a kid not to do something when you can't watch them 24/7: follow the rules or Santa will find out.

Like there's always jokes about Jewish Sabbath, but honesty that was just the equivalent to modern union mandated lunch breaks. The only way to guarantee a day off back in the day, was to explicitly outlaw doing anything. Pretty much all anyone in the household could do was just relax and hang out together.

Like I said, it's all way outdated. But every time you try something new suddenly the ATF starts hanging around...

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Because I've personally met Jesus Christ. He's a 10,000 year old former cave man.

They don't make films like they used to!

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[–] gjoel@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago

I have personally experienced librarians and they have helped me when in need.

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 week ago

My religion isn’t really based on belief, just practice. And I do the practices because they make me feel better and more connected.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do not really know. I was not raised in a practicing family, and my country is very secular.

Philosophically, I'm agnostic. I'm not convinced either by arguments for or against the existence of God. I think a being which could exist outside time and space is not approachable by our reason.

But I can't stay neutral, the question is too important. And I feel the presence of God in my life. This feeling came first, and when I tried to understand it, I went to the culturally nearest place of worship, and it was Protestantism, and I felt at home. I read the Bible, not as a theology manual, but as the story of people who try to understand the presence of God; sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong, but their quest is mine, and theirs inspires mine.

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[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I spiritually disbelieve in everyone's religion

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I believe in God and His judgement because I just do. There's something instead of nothing, and nothing takes considerably less effort than something to exist (no need to argue this, nor any way to do so, hehe), and for me the idea of a Creator makes entire sense and completes the puzzle. I believe in His judgement probably because of that inner morality and desire for truth and justice everyone has but many deny and avoid. Finally, I do because it makes me happy, and helps me tame the animal and just be overall a person I'm proud of being, one that walks his talk and is at peace with himself and others.

Of course, none of this just came to me, or at least not as well defined and convincingly spoken, this is all thanks to the words of the prophets and the word of God as encapsulated in the Qur'an. Jesus always made sense to me even as an atheist kid (I just thought he was a pretty clever and kindhearted dude, not, you know, "God made flesh" or whatever people believe in), Solomon should make sense to any adult with enough working neurons, Muhammad's message is basically just a reiteration and perfection of it all, a little bow that ties all of monotheism up. 👍

[–] powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I disagree with everything you've said, but upvoted because you answered the question.

Thanks for the positive interaction. 👍

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[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Could you expand (or link to something that expands) on the Solomon thing?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Please read Ecclesiastes, written by Solomon, (son of David, king of Jerusalem), one of the wisest men in recorded history and the OG panicking existentialist!

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ecclesiastes+1&version=NIV

It's a short read, I promise. 👍

[–] remon@ani.social 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I just have a deeply rooted appreciation for pasta.

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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (12 children)
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[–] tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I rejected christianity sometime as an early teen.

I don't remember my full reasoning but I did not like the idea of getting up early Sunday morning to do the church stuff.

It never got replaced by anything.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cutting out philosophical arguments, prophecies and "no way this is a coincidence" types of stuff (which, yeah, there's a lot of those), it's a combination of

We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?

-Quran 41:53

They have taken their rabbis and monks as lords besides Allah and also the Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), though they were commanded to worship only One God. There is no god except Him. His Glory is far above any partners they ascribe (to Him).

-9:31

And let not those who [greedily] withhold what Allah has given them of His bounty ever think that it is better for them. Rather, it is worse for them. Their necks will be encircled by what they withheld on the Day of Resurrection. And to Allah belongs the heritage of the heavens and the earth. And Allah, with what you do, is [fully] Acquainted.

-3:180

Of course there's a lot more where that came from, but the point is: We here have a religious text that encourages independent thought and pondering of the world and itself, promises harsh punishment for hoarding wealth and unequivocally condemns priestly institutions. Does that sound like an attempt to gain wealth or power? Exactly. Also this

He [Muhammad] looked displeased and turned (his attention) away, because a blind man came to him (interrupting his discourse). What would make you realise? Perhaps he would purify himself (by your attention),

-80:1-3

is not how a cult leader talks about himself. It's admittedly hard to parse from the translation, but this is a somewhat harsh admonition of Muhammad here. The segment continues until verse 10 if anyone wants continue reading, but the gist of it is "you're ignoring the man seeking guidance and trying to convince those who reject it? That is not how that works. Yes, even if it's a random blind guy."

Lovely post! The Qur'an also says something like "and We spared you from committing injustice, had We not intervened you would've easily faltered" regarding the prophet Muhammad (sorry, can't remember the exact ayat). 👍

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

You sacrifice for me, I sustain you. I sacrifice for you, you sustain me.

I believe this because nature is hungry, but expected to sustain life.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because I can at least see spaghetti without DMT.

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[–] iup9@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I want to have an afterlife. I study science, and sometimes I feel like there are things humans won't get in my lifetime. So I like to think that I can continue on learning even after I die.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Because I know exactly what death will be like. So do you. Think back to before you were born, there was nothing. There, that is death. Not much to be afraid of.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah sorry, there's nothing.

But we should behave towards each other as we'd like to be treated. Otherwise it doesn't work.

Now, there's this unsolved issue of people harming all of us...

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

because the book said itself was real

[–] miked@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm an atheist due Roman Catholic grade school. The teachings about religion were crazy.

I also went to Roman Catholic high school and college but religion was very miner. College required four religion type courses but including courses such as ethics and logic.

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