Shit like this is going to make me start saying he's not even a socdem.
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Just like Bernie and AOC
It really is hard to see any difference between any of them now
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Every. Goddamn. Time.
I'm definitely getting a lot of mileage out of this one. Wish I wasn't.
the party is truly only as strong as its discipline. this is what i'm learning.
That's a good learning comrade
What no party discipline does. Honestly, people are going to view this (if he really sells out in the end) as the DSA being victims of Zohran, but it's the other way around. A proper party would support him, educate him, and keep him in line.
Cant have party disciple if you dont have a party
DSA is not a party
Correct, which is the whole reason this problem keeps happening and will happen forever until it becomes one.
I just read a DSA piece that boils down to "Well what is betrayal? There are many diverse interests and in politics you must compromise during negotiations and 
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This is why Trump loves him
Edit: decided I'd put in some effort instead of just being a smartass. The person appointed was a lead of OpenNYCforall. Their policies are here. Basically they advocate for building new cheap housing, which doesn't address the fact that NYC has far far far more empty housing than houseless people
"Oh we're the same! You lied to get elected too! I do like you now! Go ahead it's ok, tell the media you think I'm a fascist, it's cool now that I know you're lying."
Me looking for that DSA-NYC member who posts here and said Mamdani could help with rent control from day one.
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man. people here got mad at me when i said it was strange everyone was getting their hopes up :/
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Oh. That's depressing. I was hopeful at least for his housing policy, since it seemed like an area the mayor could actually have some serious influence. This doesn't look like a good sign for that.
If only someone could have warned you, please disregard all those people with red flag and hammers who where screaming this the whole time
Let's go!!! Third Step of Zohran's ghoullification, soon he'll contradict his promises as he becomes another Bernie/AOC, yey! I love American mainstream politics!!!
It's been funny seeing all the Mamdani shit already showing up on eBay
socialism is to let developers that fucked the housing market build more houses, and the more houses they build the more socialist it is. and when there is no more houses to build, that's communism. /s
building more houses obviously good, putting bloodsuckers on charge not so good. don't burn my ass this is not anti YIMBY or anti bad zoning laws or whatever.
Well you see I mean he uh you know maybe he uh well um ah eee ohh awww man 
he's hiding his power levels
6D chess!
Official source: https://mailchi.mp/zohranfornyc/public-schedule-for-mayor-elect-4765742
Committee on Housing
- Nicholas Bloom, City University of New York (CUNY)
- Dr. Dedrick Blue, Church of Seventh Day Adventists
- Rafael Cestero, Community Preservation Corporation
- Bea De la Torre, Trinity Foundation
- Charlie Dulik, Housing Conservation Coordinators
- Emily Eisner, Fiscal Policy Institute
- Carolee Fink, COO M Squared
- Moses Gates, Regional Plan Association
- Lisa Gomez
- Annemarie Gray, Open New York
- David Greenberg, Local Initiatives Support Corporation (LISC)
- Adriene Holder, Legal Aid Society
- Olivia Leirer, New York Communities for Change
- Allison Nickerson, LiveOn NY
- Manny Pastreich, 32BJ SEIU
- Carlina Rivera, New York State Association for Affordable Housing
- Brian Scott, Pastor
- Alina Shen, CAAAV
- Iziah Thompson, Community Service Society
- Jed Walentas, REBNY
- Matt Wambua, Merchants Capital
- Cea Weaver, Tenant Bloc
- Barika Williams, Association for Neighborhood & Housing Development
- Paul Williams, Center for Public Entetprise
Does anyone know about the other members listed here?
Nicholas Bloom, City University of New York (CUNY) - pro-subsidized housing and transit researcher
Dr. Dedrick Blue, Church of Seventh Day Adventists - church boy
Rafael Cestero, Community Preservation Corporation - woke multifamily housing mortgage lender, grew out of the NY housing movement in the 70s
Bea De la Torre, Trinity Foundation - church girl
Charlie Dulik, Housing Conservation Coordinators - Hell's Kitchen anti-gentrificaiton group
Emily Eisner, Fiscal Policy Institute - progressive NYC think tank that wants stronger rent controls
Carolee Fink, COO M Squared - vague "consultancy firm"
Moses Gates, Regional Plan Association - progressive independent planning agency
Lisa Gomez - ???
Annemarie Gray, Open New York - broad "pro-housing", fronts demands for social and subsidized housing
David Greenberg, Local Initiatives Support Corporation (LISC) - grassroots organization support agency
Adriene Holder, Legal Aid Society - good lawyers
Olivia Leirer, New York Communities for Change - anti-eviction, pro-public housing community org
Allison Nickerson, LiveOn NY - senior aging support nonprofit
Manny Pastreich, 32BJ SEIU - union
Carlina Rivera, New York State Association for Affordable Housing - what it sounds like
Brian Scott, Pastor - church boy
Alina Shen, CAAAV - Asian civil rights advocacy group, does anti-gentrification work
Iziah Thompson, Community Service Society - religious homeless support organization
Jed Walentas, REBNY - Real Estate Board of New York
Matt Wambua, Merchants Capital - affordable housing mortgage lender
Cea Weaver, Tenant Bloc - very progressive tenant organization, anti-landlord and pro social housing
Barika Williams, Association for Neighborhood & Housing Development - progressive housing rights and anti-gentrification org
Paul Williams, Center for Public Entetprise - think tank that advocates for clean energy (especially nuclear and geothermal) and state-run development projects
Mostly it's a pretty solid list, tbh. There are two or three that seem bad but they're massively outweighed. They look like fig leaves to real estate without any chance of getting their stuff across.
They look like fig leaves to real estate without any chance of getting their stuff across.
Well, that's good. I'm not sure why he feels the need to do this, but I guess it's an inevitable part of electoralism in the liberal system. Thanks for putting in the work on the list!
He has to contend with actually existing power structures. If even Xi Jinping has to make common cause with capitalists, it's no surprise that the mayor of NYC would need to do the same.
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New York City literally derives a major portions of its revenue from Wall Street and the real estate sector.
The financial and real estate sectors are the fundamental parts of the city’s economy. If Mamdani wants to implement his welfare policies and improve public services as he promised, he cannot piss off those people. Simple as that. And he cannot piss off Trump, because the federal government has tremendous power over state and municipality, whether you like it or not.
He’s not going to touch Wall Street and the real estate tycoons if he wants to fulfill his campaign promises to improve NYC. I don’t see why this is so hard to understand?
I think its simpler than that. YIMBYs aren't your normal real estate lobbyists. They cultivate large a large tenant constituency to make their demands seem popular. Its likely that Mamdani simply wanted that tenant constituency in his coalition despite their supply-side housing brainworms.
That's actually a fairly good reason to do this, at least.
Yeah this isn't a case of fell-for-it-again. The only convincing ones I've seen so far have been concessions to the NYPD. But that's basically him not wanting to become a martyr.
Like people are genuinely convinced that he's a fraud like a politician from a move when the actual analysis is that he's going to fail to implement his policies.
I suspect the people so eager to hand out fell-for-it-again awards aren't yanks and don't really know what a yimby is.
don't really know what a yimby is.
YIMBYs are mainly polite-sounding ethnic cleansers. They're "woke" (imagine those quotes are larger for the correct effect) gentrifiers. People are right to be disgusted with them, though as you point out they have some support among the American public.
Like people are genuinely convinced that he's a fraud like a politician from a move when the actual analysis is that he's going to fail to implement his policies.
I mostly agree (he probably means well and thinks concessions are practical and will help him get things done), but sadly the difference in the outcome is not very large.
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Wer hat uns verraten?
Since municipal socialism is a pipe dream (shouts out to whoever posted that Lenin passage recently), I’m honestly still not convinced ZM isn’t doing his best with good intentions.
The idea that he would ever be able to implement his policies unabashedly while still fully within the liberal crapitalist framework has always felt unrealistic, which is why we need to completely tear it down and start over.
All this to say, I’ll let Zohran cook. Inviting shitty people to the table is morally incorrect but what can you expect in this country? It’d be sick for Zohran to lead NYC to secede but it ain’t happening. In my head, he’s got a year to produce at least an in-progress roadmap if not actual results, or whenever he makes policy that actively hurts those he supposedly campaigned for (and maybe he already did that and I missed it so let me know if that’s the case).
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it was zohver before it even sligun 😔
See this is what merits a FELL FOR IT AGAIN AWARD if you must punch down towards comrades who try to have a shred of hope for politics in this country, not "he says he can work with trump"
ethnic cleansing done left
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