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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 73 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Every election is the most important in your lifetime as long as fascists are on the ballot.

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If it's that important maybe the democrats should start appealing their target group instead of trying to get Republicans to vote for them (which didn't really work anyways)

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's possible that there is a way to win them over, but it's not by getting up on stage with Liz Cheney. The idea of "the elites are working against us" does resonate with certain Republican voters, even if their anger is being misdirected in support of Donald Trump. It's not something the Hillary Clinton wing of the party could possibly harness. People like Bernie or AOC could, though.

Here's Bernie demonstrating it: https://youtu.be/RP8Oxe6OxJc

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've seen that video before. It's a good one that, to me from far away, shows how the more progressive side of the democratic party should very much resonate with poorer, currently republican voters if they just leaned into that messaging more.

The message at it's core is so simple: The country is rich, you're poor, fuck that shit.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

Agreed. I vote for them out of practicality, not because I actually like them.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Remember when the Democrats propped up Trump thinking Clinton would curbstomp him because who the hell would vote for him? Good times. (Europe is doing the same, pushing the far right to pretend the vanilla right is the only viable opposition and actually pretty center, and then act surprised when everything implodes)

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I do! Real It Can't Happen Here moment. Kinda worse in Europe because It's Already Happened There.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

It already happened there 90 years ago. AND they get to see our results within this decade. They think afd is different from Trump somehow? Not significantly.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 20 points 4 months ago (5 children)

If your system has allowed itself to devolve into "vote for my slightly less oppressive status quo or else you get abject oppression" then you kinda have to begin admitting the entire system is folly and needs to be dismantled.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. Easier said than done, though. Looks like we'll be doing it the hard way, societal collapse.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Good, this society deserves to collapse. It is fundamentally oppressive and exploitative.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Also don't disagree. It's just tragic how much suffering has to happen.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It’s a trick to keep preserving an awful status quo in perpetuity for your whole life.

Surely the fascists will pack up and go home if the Democrats can just win this one time…

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[–] khepri@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (4 children)

These past few elections have been fucking important. As someone who lived through the whole "boring" era of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama, these last 10 years have been aberrant in every way politically and it's dumb to pretend they haven't been.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's also dumb to pretend the "boring" era wasn't politically aberrant as well. They were setting the stage for what we are seeing now, and it's telling that people are only getting upset now that fascism is getting focused inwards and domestically instead of outwardly towards other countries.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 months ago

It's naive to believe that this is anything aberrant to begin with.

They have been setting up this stage since the fucking New Deal made concessions to the working class to stymie a growing threat of working class revolt. Not even a few years later they enacted Taft-Hartley and began dismantling union power.

There was a slight resurgence of working class action during the Civil Rights movement but unfortunately that was all co-opted by the establishment in order to keep the working class divided.

The Gilded Age rober barons were pissed they lost their fiefdoms and then began to systematically claw it back from the people ever since.

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[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

bush literally stole an election with the supreme court. boring. ho hum

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you didn't have multiple militia groups and a bunch of rioters break into the Supreme Court trying to stop them from making that ruling, and then all get arrested and sent to jail, and then all get pardoned by the very guy they wanted to illegally stay in office, so yeah, bush v gore was relatively boring.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

no you just had shit like people with (justified) geopolitical grievances against the US flying planes into towers. very dull.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Well that's quite a pivot from bush v gore and also isn't about elections, but sure, I'll concede that major geopolitical events also happened prior to 2015 if that's what the frame of the discussion is now.

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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 27 points 4 months ago (31 children)

Being against the rabid Zionism of the Dem mainstream is based. The second point, not so much.

warn people that losing an election to fascists will lead to fascism

people ignore the warning

election is lost to fascists

fascist administration immediately starts doing fascist things

blame the LIBS for making a big deal out of it

???

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 33 points 4 months ago (14 children)

I think their point is that they pull the same tactic every year and it's clear it's shit

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Bold of you to assume Democrats don't know what they are doing.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The nice thing is there are starting to be better comedians on the set.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago
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