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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Suicide, obviously.

Fucking state sponsored lynching

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's found hog-tied and hanging, and it's declared a suicide?

It also said that several others have died in a similar manner.

How does someone who is hog-tied commit suicide? And how does it get to be a common method of suicide?

The more likely scenario is that they tie up people in this manner for some reason (torture, punishment, entertainment) and if they die, they report it as suicide, and nobody questions it.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

The point of this sort of overt evil is to get caught, and get away with it anyway. It's a display of power.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago
[–] AliSaket@mander.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

In some places in the world, some people seem to get incredibly clumsy when they're near open windows. In others, they have very guilty consciences to the point of killing themselves.

\s for clarity

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 230 points 2 days ago (28 children)

TW: suicide???

An autopsy report seen by Newsweek showed Ge was found tied with a bedsheet, with linens around his wrists and ankles in what the report described as a "hog-tied" position. The medical examiner noted that there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar, and that there were no obvious defense wounds.

Am I missing something here? How does someone hogtie themselves and then hang themselves? How is this being considered a suicide? Am I on crazy pills?

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 144 points 2 days ago (20 children)

It's not uncommon in Russia for people to commit suicide with a couple gunshots to the head, and then jumping out the window.

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[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 80 points 2 days ago (1 children)

there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar

nervous laughter What the fuck.

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[–] jdredbeard@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

It's the same sense that Epstein "committed suicide."

A lot of people seem to "commit suicide" who were inconvenient to this Admin

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 33 points 2 days ago

David B. Rankin, the family’s attorney, in a statement to Newsweek: “It is truly mystifying how any detention facility can let someone leave their room, create three nooses and then hang themselves without anyone knowing. What’s worse is the lack of mental health care which could have prevented this tragedy. Mr. Ge’s death represents a totally failure on the part of the GeoGroup and the DHS.”

Seems like everyone is playing along with the claim of suicide while trying to get the details from DHS/GeoGroup.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's how it's done in the United Soviet States of America.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago

Easy on the "United".

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

ICE is a terrorist organization

[–] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe they should call themselves ICES

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Oh, a lynching.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 156 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Wow look at Newsweek calling an execution “found dead”

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (10 children)

To be fair, they also said “with hands and feet tied.” They’re avoiding getting into legal hot water and all the readers know this smells like murder.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why is the media not questioning this?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 56 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Because they're owned by the billionaires who support this

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[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So are we calling this a prison murder or a state sanctioned assassination?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Obviously it will be ruled as a suicide.

[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

The insane part is, as stated in the article, even the family’s attorney is saying “how could you let someone get out of their cell, and tie three separate noses to hang themselves?”

What in the fuck, how is his not automatically determined to be foul play? NOT EVEN BY THE ATTONREY SUING THE DHS

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He was accused of accessing a device issued to another who did not authorize its use, conspiracy – accessing a device issued to another who did not authorize use, theft by deception—false impression, conspiracy—theft by deception, criminal use of a communication facility, and unlawful use of a computer—access to disrupt function.

Uhh are we sure a different agency didn't perhaps target him for arrest bc they thought he was a spy, and then murder him while in custody? This doesn't seem like run of the mill trumped up ice bullshit.

Not that they wouldn't torture and murder somebody, but this seems a bit more professional than I would expect CBP to pull off. Especially if it's true he didn't have any defensive marks.

Never really thought about how easy it might be to sprinkle in a few government trained assassins in the chaos of every new batch of rushed ice recruits. Like if you had already been keeping people on a DHS watchlist for decades beforehand, this could be an easy way to detain them without drawing attention.

An autopsy report seen by Newsweek showed Ge was found tied with a bedsheet, with linens around his wrists and ankles in what the report described as a "hog-tied" position. The medical examiner noted that there had been other reported incidents of people who had hung themselves having done something similar, and that there were no obvious defense wounds.

Other reports of people hog tying themselves? To commit suicide?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like he was accused of using a stolen phone.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Apparently he allegedly admitted to having a bunch of stolen credit card numbers on his phone, but I can't find anything about him using a stolen phone/computer

access to disrupt function seems like a weird charge to give somebody for just having stolen credit card numbers on a phone, but I guess it would depend on how he obtained them

"access to disrupt function" is a specific element of the criminal charge "Unlawful Use of Computer" under the Pennsylvania Crimes Code, 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 7611. It refers to gaining unauthorized access to a computer or network with the intent to interfere with its normal operation or the services it provides.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does anyone have a list of all ICE detention facilities?

Not for any particular reason. Definitely not to see if anything can be done to free the victims.

Definitely not so that international efforts could help coordinate the rescue of the victims.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Speaking hypothetically, i think adresses of members would be more useful.

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[–] tym@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The foxes are running the henhouse, but chickens always come home to roost.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

US civil rights in its current state right now = near zero.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What's next? "Decapitated limbs found 100 feet apart, with the head in the center on a pentagram. Ruled as suicide."

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

What the fuck will it take for people stand up and say no more. What has happened to this country. This is inhumane, what was his crime, just existing and trying to make his life better

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Could be your next Canadian or European tourist.

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