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Now. Why am I wrong for Libre

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

edit a pdf? Edit your expectations.

I feel seen. The number of times I've actually needed to do this is too damn high. Sure, I feel entitled to not have to pay for the privilege, as the task was usually thrust upon me by some bank, HR department, or legal firm. But the number of scummy websites online that will happily play with your doc's confidential info for free, is too damn high. I can't imagine anyone with average computer skills navigating this particular turing tarpit unscathed.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago

You can also edit a PDF with LibreOffice Draw

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Inkscape is a free vector editor that handles pdf edits relatively well. Always my goto.
* Assuming you're making minor changes.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

I've used Inkscape for a lot of vector art. Using it to edit a PDF seems... overkill, but it's probably less likely to screw things up. I'll give that a shot next time, thanks!

[–] gilbert31@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Firefox now allows you to edit PDFs locally, for most use cases it is enough. There is also PDFsam Basic, an open-source tool to divide, merge, extract pages, rotate, etc.

[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 12 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

Be Australian. Set language to English: Australian

Write word: color. Does not underline spelling error.

Don't even mention PowerPoint language.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 35 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I just want to write Markdown. I just want to write Markdown. I just want to write Markdown. I just want to write Markdown.

The thing I really hate about modern word processors and everyone's obsession with PDFs is that the vast majority of the time things will never be printed, but everything still focuses on paginated formats. Nobody seems to get this but you can literally send someone a .HTML file that they can just open in their browsers. Even when I tell developers about this they say dumb things like a single file will load slower. Buddy, it's loading from the disk, it's not querying shit, it is okay to make it a single HTML file.

But no, fuck you, just pages and PDFs.

The silver lining is that at least Google Docs (I don't use other editors often) now has a "pageless" mode. But the amount of times I've run into weird things like accidentally backspacing the last character of something with special formatting only to undo it, add extra characters temporarily, then backspace in front of it... Fucking hell. Just let me write Markdown. Just let me write Markdown! JUST LET ME WRITE MARKDOWN!

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

Paginated formats still have advantages even if they are never printed. It just makes referencing stuff so much easier, if you can say "page 451, second headline, third paragraph".

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Nahhhh, you gotta think outside the box. You can tell people section 3, subsection 2, etc. even without pages. I'm addition, check this out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_element#Anchor Click that. See the little but at the end? #Anchor? We can already use URI fragments to link to specific sections.

"But JackbyDev, I'm not linking to a specific section of something in an outline, I need to link to a specific part of long form content, like a novel. I can only do that with pages."

That's a good point, but modern browsers have a way to deal with that too. This is where text fragments help: they allow the link author to have full control over what text to link to, without requiring any special markup in the target document. You can use #:~:text= to link to specific blocks of text.

~~Edit: Lemmy is reformatting that for some reason and makes it not work. Try copying and pasting the below for a working example.~~

~~https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/URI/Reference/Fragment/Text_fragments#%3A%7E%3Atext=This+is+where+text+fragments+help%3A+they+allow+the+link+author+to+have+full+control+over+what+text+to+link+to%2C+without+requiring+any+special+markup+in+the+target+document.~~

Edit 2: Apparently Lemmy reformats links in preformat snips. Amazing. 🫩 Maybe slap this into the URL bar en-US/docs/Web/URI/Reference/Fragment/Text_fragments#:~:text=This%20is%20where%20text%20fragments%20help%3A%20they%20allow%20the%20link%20author%20to%20have%20full%20control%20over%20what%20text%20to%20link%20to%2C%20without%20requiring%20any%20special%20markup%20in%20the%20target%20document. after pasting https://developer.mozilla.org/ Nothing more frustrating that trying to show people a very cool and useful feature of browsers only for a different tool to just ruin it.

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[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 15 hours ago

If LaTeX is being used to produce paginated output for people to view that will exclusively never be printing it then I have a lot of the same gripes. Though any sort of non-WYSIWYG format is more enjoyable in my mind.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm using Libre office at the moment to actually write something more than a few pages, and it's English dictionary is missing like 50% of the English language.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Give him a break, typing with libreoffice. He didn't know

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Might have something to do with Microsoft offering M365 to nearly all universities for dirt cheap or free.

Don't agree to Microsoft's terms of service? Guess university isn't for you.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I finally realized a couple years ago that I don't need an office suite or fancy email client anymore and I ripped it all out. No more LibreOffice and no more Thunderbird.

Now all I use is AbiWord and Gnumeric for my simple needs. I am finally liberated!

[–] bvoigtlaender@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago

Yo! AbiWord is rad! Thanks for the recommendation. This always put me off using LibreOffice. It is so bloated with features nobody uses. Or maybe its actually and the design and UX is just horrible.

[–] IpsumLauren@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

"Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft"

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 20 hours ago

best thing about microsoft office is word 3.1 providing me with 30 blank discs for storage.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

Wanna know something fun about Office?
The keyboard shortcuts are localized.

YES, REALLY.

If you press Ctrl+S when running in Portuguese, it doesn't save, it underlines the word instead (Because the word for it is "Sublinhar").

Whoever is responsible for this decision won't die, when their time comes they'll be swallowed alive by the earth and welcomed into the 10th circle of hell, created for them exclusively.

The 11th circle is reserved for he who decided to localize the Excel Formula Functions too.

[–] pornpornporn@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh i fucking hate this one, at least once a week I hit control S and excel goes "no problem I'll underline that cell fo you cause obviously that's the shortcut for 'sublinhar' "

But that's not the worst part.

The worst part is the actual save shortcut in portuguese.

It's ctrl+b. I can't think of any portuguese 'B' word that would translate to save.

'Save' = 'salvar'.

But we can't do Ctrl+s BECAUSE THAT SHORTCUT IS ALREADY TAKEN

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