Given this brazen lack of stability and accountability, I believe the only solution is to nationalize Cloudflare.
this post was submitted on 18 Nov 2025
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i think all monopolies should be split and collectivized by the workers. seriously!
It's counterproductive to split monopolies before collectivizing them. Collectivize them as monopolies. There's no need for the people to compete with each other / themselves.
Depends on the nature of the monopoly. A lot of modern corporations have extensive ~~vertical~~ horizontal integration that might not make sense to preserve in collectivization.
That's true, but in those cases they're not being split to create competition, since the resulting companies wouldn't be operating in the same fields.
Why would vertical integration not be worth preserving in a state monopoly?
It leads to a lot of unnecessary redundancy. Say you fold Department X from Corporation L into Agency B during collectivization, and then later collectivize Corporation M that has a department that does pretty much the same thing as Department. Unless there’s something particularly specialized about the nature if that department within the context of Corporation M, it’s more efficient to just roll it into Agency B as well.
Sure, but wouldn't doing that tend to increase rather than decrease the overall amount of vertical integration within Agency B?
Bugger, I just realized I got it backwards and should’ve been using “horizontal integration” this whole time
Okay, but that would also increase by folding multiple competing companies into the same state agency
i mean split all monopolies into different companies, and have those collectivized by the workers. seriously!
the west has fallen everyone celebrate 
hell yeah, fuck the internet. It's been useless for years now anyway. Can't search for anything that isn't AI generated trash or some scam website.
do you think that in a communist society, the internet would be a bit more decentralized? also, have you heard of "reds! a revolutionary timeline"? it's an althistory timeline about what would happen if leon czolgosz gets arrested before he shoots mckinley, culminating in the us becoming a socialist country a lot like the ussr but with a more democratic and libertarian twist. seriously!
“The internet” is just at its core a network, and having a big networked library/archive sounds great for central planning.
what about cybersyn?
Exactly. That’s what the internet will resemble under communism.
Honestly, I don't see a timeline where the internet doesn't become a centralised tool for extreme surveillance.
It's why it was made in the first place. Besides, any real socialist revolution needs an iron grip on any mass media, digital or otherwise, to track down and stamp out counter revolutionary movements.
Decentralised networks would be a catastrophic weak spot and a breeding ground for fascists.
The golden age of the internet is over and the era only served as a means to get everyone on the grid for surveillance purposes. Now, governments all over the world are taking off the masks and reigning in any free use of the internet through waging war on privacy, free speech and imposing Chat Control everywhere.
The internet was always a weapon for class rule. It can not and will never be anything else.
i think the internet being used for extreme surveillance counts as coercion which is against the non-aggression principle (DON'T use force and coercion to anyone). seriously!
Sorry, I tripped on the cord and spilled my beans all down the back of the internet. Should be good now, sorry.
are you eating baked beans or tomato beans?
It's actually black beans and tortilla chips, good question though
I guess I'm happy I moved piratefeeds.net off of cloudflare a few days ago...
Who could have foreseen that centralizing critical internet infrastructure under a handful of providers could be a bad idea? Except the people who built the early internet as intentionally decentralized ofc
Just stop using CDNs, just ship fewer assets. I will not be convinced otherwise.
Seriously though I did experience this first hand because my home server is exposed to the internet via Cloudflare's DNS. And shortly thereafter when my CTO was like "ah yes the website and app is down and no one can access the company services because our VPN is also cloudflare.