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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

They were picked to vote this way beause their seats are either not up for election next year or they're retiring. Schumer masterminded this but voted no himself in a form of fake resistance. We have to punish more than just this list or nothing changes. It's a big setup and they're trying to play us for fools.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Schumer masterminded this

Bruh...

Schumer isn't a "mastermind" anymore than trump is. I'm not defending him, I'm saying he's too stupid and ineffective for your theory.

Him and other neoliberal "leadership" were just middlemen between a corrupt DNC and elected Dem politicians. If people didn't vote how the corrupt DNC wanted, then they cut off funding to the whole state party.

They "led" like terrorists.

Tim Kaine was one of those shitty corrupt DNC chairs, and got paid back by being one of Hillary's VP picks.

If anyone masterminded this, it was him. He's a bigger problem then any household name in the Dem party. And is 100% ok letting republicans win general elections to prevent progressives from getting in office. He'd 100% sabotage the party/movement to stop progressives from gaining ground.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago

Yeah. Let's be clear here, Schumer leads like an Applebee's store manager: He gets point-by-point instructions from corporate. Not a thought required.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

One of the 7 openly admits this.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well that's...a bit conspiracy heavy I suppose.

The other explanation is that they are from states harder hit from the shutdown, and this essentially gets everyone paid right now and sets up this vote from two weeks from now where they can just shut it down again if the GOP doesn't pony up.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We have confirmation from other articles that Schumer organized this, so why did he vote no himself? Don't fall for it.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why did he vote no? For appearences.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I would assume that yes. The more progressive wing of democrats have been fed up with Chuck for a long time and so have a lot of the voters. Allowing riskier seats to have plausible deniability is the whole purpose of having the least risky seats be the ones to break. What worries me is Chuck is more than likely not the only one voting no now that there's enough yes votes but secretly in favor of it. How are we going to find those other people?

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haven’t seen those. Where should be looking?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

https://prospect.org/2025/11/08/why-does-schumer-keep-trying-to-cave-government-shutdown/

Here’s what occurred. It has been widely assumed that the group of eight mostly centrist Senate Democrats, who have been looking to broker a hollow deal on Republican terms, were freelancing. In fact, they were acting with the express approval of Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and were reporting to him daily.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/schumer-is-no-longer-effective-dems-outraged-over-shutdown-deal-00644253

Seth Moulton (D-Mass.) accused Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of being ineffective and called for his removal.

In this article Seth Moulton calls for Schumers removal putting the blame on him, because he knows what Chuck was doing. He's far from the only Democrat calling our Schumer specifically for this.

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m5bpyndmlp2u

Clip from faux news

KILMEADE: Schumer says he's voting no. Did you do this outside leadership?

SHAHEEN: No. We kept leadership informed throughout.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In fact, they were acting with the express approval of Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and were reporting to him daily.

Uh...

That first link definitely says that, but it doesn't actually back it up with anything...

The second link is a politician accusing Schumer of being ineffective, which is 100% true...

The third is fucking Faux News and just says Schumer was "informed"...

Like, not only do none of those three links back up what you're saying, if anything they paint the picture that Schumer is ineffective and couldn't have done anything if he wanted. Which is the most likely explanation.

[–] HuskerNation@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please. Schumer has been Republicans useful idiot for years. He's spineless when it comes to standing against them. Has been for years

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Schumer has been Republicans useful idiot for years. He’s spineless

I'm not disagreeing with that...

But that doesn't mean he's some fucking masteind that set this up.

He's too incompetent to do really anything, and the 10 that voted with republicans didn't need anyone to convince them. Because they're as big, or bigger, pieces of shit than Schumer.

Like, one of them is an ex DNC chair during some of the DNC's darkest times where we handed republicans a shit ton of seats to block progressives.

I know Schumer is the household name and all, but nothing in that comment made logical sense or even accurately represented what the link articles were saying.

We can't afford to just blame the easy targets, because that leaves the rel problems.

Stop falling for fucking scape goats

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck you Dick Durbin you backstabbing coward.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So pissed as an IL resident. Dick Douchebag is not running for reelection so he doesn’t give a fuck.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

His office wasn't even taking voicemails when I tried calling. Fuck him.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I read that last night. What a fucking tool. I hope someone confronts him on the street so he’s forced to actually see the faces of his constituents.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

He’s gonna be hiding up in his ivory tower for a year

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Only thing we can do is vote in the primaries and make sure we don’t get an establishment dem as a senator.

Not much but it’s the only thing I think we got. I’m so furious.

[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago

Fuck you Fetterman.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Democratic Sens. Dick Durbin, Jacky Rosen, John Fetterman and Catherine Cortez Masto. From bottom left: Democratic Sens. Jeanne Shaheen, Maggie Hassan and Tim Kaine, with independent Sen. Angus King.

[–] tylerkdurdan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

NH must now change its motto from "live free or die" to "die (sorry not sorry)"

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

All that for nothing. Nothing.

This party is dead to me.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 2 days ago

I doubt it perfectly lined up that the only dems that caved were the ones retiring or not up for reelection for 5 years.

All of them are complicit. All of them will need to be replaced. Even the ones that voted no. They can't be trusted.

[–] Frostillicus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

Thank our LORD Jesus Christ they Caved BEFORE Rich people were really Inconvenienced with NOT being able to Fly Privately! And I HOPE the ATCs DONT continue to Ground Rich People's Private Jets! Because that's MUCH MORE Catastrophic then STARVING AMERICAN CITIZENS!

They're collaborators with the spinless Schumer, that's who they are.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

Now there is a Christmas surprise of people not being able to afford health care NOR presents for their family for holidays.

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Primary every last traitor

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

None of those are up for reelection next time. I'm sure that wasn't calculated by Schumer.