What of all the heinous crimes committed by individual israelis? The theft, the violence, the incitement, the many ancillary tasks that had to be carried out. Whole families, whole villages.

How to go about re-integrating these people into the global population? Assuming the Palestinians want their land back, then they'll switch places with the refugee camps? Or go back to western europe.

And then all the christians around the world and their stupid rapture. Is anybody working within those churches to move away from that? Can they in fact be saved from it?

All of us with our brain worms.

What's practical, what's a perfect world?

I think a lot of people/organizations should have all assets seized.

I know the questions are way too simple because they don't even contemplate how we'd get from today Nov 2 2025 to a place where any of the above is feasible. And other things. Answers to any questions posed or not pose, or more refined posings are welcome.

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

How to go about re-integrating these people into the global population? Assuming the Palestinians want their land back, then they'll switch places with the refugee camps? Or go back to western europe.

A large portion of "Israeli" Jews (a majority, I think) are not Ashkenazim. Most of these are descendants of Sephardi who would no longer be welcome in the countries they left (mostly because of the existence of "Israel"). A large amount of the Jewish migration into "Israel" is a tragedy that can't be undone, at least in the short term. I think it's likely that if apartheid were ended, many would voluntarily choose to leave to a 3rd state, but the likelihood of Europe and America accepting a large amount of Arab Jews in this situation seems very low to me.

Many cite the South African example, but the "Israeli" government and people are (as far as I know) criminal at a rate and to a degree that far exceed even Afrikaners. I really don't see how many of them will live with Palestinians in peace, but I hope it's possible. I know with 100% certainty that any problems and violence after the end of apartheid would be coming primarily from "Israelis".

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

de-nazification

What's on the table?

-anonymous, 1945

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To really ask this question properly it would be required to examine this and other similar situations, what were the interventions and how they worked out.

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I guess I'm just suggesting that de-zionisation would be a similar process. Soviet interventions would probably be the historical precedents that should be studied, i suppose

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder if there have been any scientific data on different interventions

[–] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

East German government studies? It'll probably be hard to shift through all the Cold War era propaganda tho

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

kicking out anyone with citizenship somewhere else might be a decent idea, but ultimately it's up to Palestinians to decide and how cowed the zionists are after they take too many Ls to go on.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imo, a single state, with at least a 50% quota for Palestinians across all Government institutions, all expelled Palestinians have right to return, Aliyah is stopped and Jewish immigration only to those with close relatives who live in what is currently "Israel". For prosecution, I believe the focus should be on top level and those directly involved. For reparations, may be a lower wage floor for 'Israelis' compared to Palestinians. Palestinians may be given back their homes/land if provable claim is there and those occupying the homes will be given a home by the state. Those who can't prove claim will be given land and/or home. It's the job of the state to ensure the settlers don't start anything.

It's a pretty unique situation, Nazi Germany didn't achieve its settler colonial aims and modern settler colonial states like the U.S., Canada, Aus etc. wiped out the native population.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Jewish immigration only to those with close relatives who live in what is currently "Israel"

Maybe not even this at first. Overwhelmingly, Jewish people live in places where they are safe. If someone in New York wants to live full time with their family in "Israel", the family can move to New York. "Israeli" Jews have a demographic obsession already, it would get 100x worse in a single state.