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White House officials, at the start of the shutdown, were certain the Trump administration was better positioned to battle the left during a funding lapse.

In early October, several Trump administration officials had a friendly pool going of how long the shutdown would last. The White House, at the time, was confident Democrats would quickly fold.

No one guessed more than 10 days.

The account, relayed by a person close to the White House granted anonymity to discuss internal thinking, underscores just how much the administration miscalculated the Democrats’ will to keep the government closed even amid furloughs and imperiled social programs like food assistance.

As the shutdown heads into its second month, Donald Trump is increasingly frustrated. On Thursday, he called for Republicans to abolish the filibuster to reopen the government — a plea he knows is futile, but that demonstrates his growing irritation with Democrats, said a second person close to the White House.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 137 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the administration miscalculated the Democrats’ will to keep the government closed

No, Democrats will isn't about being the government closed. It is the Democrat's will to stand up for affordable healthcare.

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (11 children)

The Republicans, with majority control of all three branches of government, have proven themselves inept, incompetent, irresponsible and generally incapable of successfully governing? Surely this is just a one time thing and not part of a continuing cycle that has repeated itself numerous times through the lifespans of the same voters who elected them! /s

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Donald Taco, overseer of the greatest longest biggest shutdown in US history. Congrats

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 months ago

Aaaaaand the second longest one too!

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Says the guy weaponizing the DOJ against his opponents right after accusing the other side of doing the same.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In this administration, every accusation is an admission.

[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

... just like with Russian diplomacy

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hold the line until he’s dead

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One of the few surefire ways people have to make the powerful face personal consequences: waste their time.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 months ago

It’s depressing to think that the most punishment they will ever receive is the feeling the rest of us get waiting in a long line.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The hold the line even longer, until everyone associated with him has been held accountable.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 months ago

It’s a long line if you want everyone ;)

[–] halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"frustrated"?! People are literally starving because of their greed, their ego, their complete lack of empathy

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

People are literally starving

Which means it's working exactly the way they want.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Frustrated they can’t just steamroll everything, the dems are forcing the republicans to own their shitty policy they are trying to get the dems to vote for.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“Trump, he’s had it with these people, because he knows they’re playing politics,”

Lmao.

[–] gjoel@programming.dev 15 points 3 months ago

Who'd have thought politicians would play politics when doing politics?

[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Democrats' plan: we'll pay half so you only have to spend all of your life savings on healthcare

Republicans' plan: die you fucking plebs

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Democrats: it’s not perfect enough

Republicans: fuck you and die

You: “both sides are the same.”

“Also,combined with my lack of patience towards the arch of history I’m just gonna take a shit on the whole conversation and offer no other option just cause I’m so smart”

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where did they say both sides were the same? I see that they said that both sides suck but one is objectively worse than the other, which is true. Democrats are shit but Republicans are straight evil.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“Dems suck… republicans also suck but for additional stuff….”

You have how hard a time seeing the both sidesism?

It’s like if someone says republicans suck you generate total blindness…

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago

Basic human rights is a hill to die on, and Republicans are trying to take everything away.

Who the hell can even support them anymore? They would have to be living in a bubble.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 months ago

Oh well. Too bad about their frustrated expectations.

But I won't really be happy until justice is done, to each and every one of them, and everything that Trump has corrupted has been rooted out and rescinded.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My prediction is that it will end this week when federal ATC employees stop showing up for work, thus directly affecting the quality of life of republican lawmakers and their billionaire donors. That's exactly why the last "longest shutdown in history" ended too.

Starving people? Hardly an inconvenience to the ultra rich. Can't fly their private jet? One phone call to Trump and the shutdown is over that afternoon.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Trump lost the last shutdown in one of the most humiliating political defeats of his Presidency. Did he think this one would be different?

[–] UltraMagnus@startrek.website 8 points 3 months ago

As this continues, I would highly recommend folks support their local food pantries as they are able. Cash is better, but there's nothing wrong with a food drive to collect cans from your neighbors. Some pantries also accept fresh produce, if you have some left from your garden this year.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

No they aren't.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Three days tops.

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

the left

Lol.. Thae what now ? Jow about centre right.

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