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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 138 points 5 months ago (3 children)

He's not confusing shit...

His people lied to him because it's the only way he'd take it.

They did it his first term too, and we now know Biden's team was doing similar shit.

12 years in a row America will have had presidents incapable of doing the job and random unelected employees using the president like a puppet.

We can't keep pretending this is normal, or people only caring when it's "the other team" doing it.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

It is beyond reason that we have agreed as a society that there is an age at which folks start getting the social security checks we all agreed to pay into our whole lives, but yet somehow that age does not disqualify us from public office.

It makes 0 sense to allow people to be in or run for public office who are also capable of collecting social security. The two ideas are diametrically opposed.

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is something to be said for age and experience. I think a large part of the reason why executives in the corporate world, and in politics, is it usually takes a lifetime to get yourself into a position to take on the role in the first place.

In principle, I have no issue with someone in their 60’s being the POTUS. A 65 year old in good physical health should also have more than adequate cognitive function to do the job.

If I have any issues with someone that age in that role, it’s that they’ve likely lost touch with the needs of the people who elected them.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

From personal experience, I can tell you that being over 40 when you have a kid is a huge benefit. More patience, more money, more acceptance. Young parents tend to be emotionally unprepared for the challenges.

I'm over 60. My wife and I have a great trusting relationship with our teen son. He comes to us with concerns and problems. We encourage him to have all the room he wants to have his independent life. He is involved in all major decisions.

Maturity certainly has strong benefits. It is unfortunate that it also comes as the body begins to decay.

My grandmother died of Alzheimer's - her mind failed long before her body. We are caring for a relative with Parkinson's - her body has failed long before her mind.

It is best to take the individual into account. It would also be great if the lying of politicians was a prosecutable offense.

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You’re describing exactly what I’m talking about. Definitely case by case.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm just supporting you. Down to earth reasons why you're right.

Old folks often get dismissed out of hand just for being old. "Boomers", etc. It's a small view of the world.

Some of us were the original punks. Some were hippies. Some still are. Many are excellent listeners that see all the problems that younger folks have and are working with them on solutions. When the shit goes down, we'll provide safe houses. If you'll just trust us.

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

lol… we are in violent agreement 😂

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://www.fox4news.com/news/neighborhood-rallies-after-carrollton-couples-gay-pride-flag-burned

This is what happens when hippie boomers get involved. I am proud of my family member that was a big part of the response.

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s awesome, man!

People talk a lot of shit about boomers. George Carlin was a boomer though, lol.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, people are leaving out all the good things that boomers started.

A useful thing to remember is the term "sombunall" as popularized by RAW. Probably most especially when talking about nebulous things like "generations".

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yep. 100%. I do think a lot of the ageism being sowed as discord between generations is orchestrated. Another way to atomize the population.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Correct.

Again we have the founders never thinking that an 80yo would WANT to be in elected office; rather than at home walking the dogs.

In a rational world we’d be looking at someone in their 60s and thinking; are you really going to want to do THIS job? — in the private sector; we have effing age discrimination laws to protect those over 50?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yep.

It's one thing to be an office drone at 65, it's a completely other thing to be the actual US president.

It's a new phenomenon, and almost certainly tied to Boomers being larger than subsequent generations way longer than normal, and refusing to tolerate the idea that someone younger could be better.

They vote for people older than them. And they almost always will.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a good deal of variation between people. A manual laborer can't be expected to work past 65, but many white collar workers are perfectly capable well beyond. Compare Trump to Bernie.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

So true. It's probably why SS is where it is at. It's fine to be able to draw down SS, but that should not be a metric on how people are forced out of the workforce, either. I was just talking to someone I know who is between jobs, thinking she may be forced to retire, just because she's 76.

She has multiple recent and relevant certs, recent and relevant experience, has an active mind and is very capable. And yet, thanks to most people in the hiring process being younger than her (and in many cases, very young) she is faced with a lot of ageism. It's a real shame since she'd be contributing...it's not like she has to do manual labor.

She said, "I just want to keep working, but I'm not sure I'll be able to. I may just have to retire even if I don't want to." I just shook my head. It's crazy.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I think it makes far more sense to tie this kind of thing to capabilities, rather than some fixed number.

Especially if/when biotech starts having a major impact...we may have people being capable for very much longer. Cutting it off at SS age would be very stupid. SS is probably where it is at because it has to account for jobs that may have a very physical component to them. People work way past that age all across the board anyway, and our politicians should be no different.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but their argument is that by not allowing people of that age, that demographic then loses their representation in government.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Maybe, and it's hard to give up something you have than it is to block something. The restriction that you have to be at least 35 is basically the exact same thing.

The real issue is that someone with Aimee skin in the game, rather than someone just looking forward to retirement is way harder for the string outlets to control.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Its almost like the billionaires running the show just want a puppet they can controll. No wonder they are so afraid to lose New York to a free thinker.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Losing the mayor in NYC is a public bloody nose for them.

Losing the DNC last January was a terminal cancer diagnosis...

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

It's no accident they are in there.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Do you have any opinions that don't involve "bOTh SIdeSN!1!!"?

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 months ago

That's nice dear, we'll put it up on the fridge next to all your other tests, just move one of the syphilis positives to the garage.

[–] mtoboggan@feddit.org 20 points 5 months ago

I know, grandpa.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

That pairs nicely with the "idiots can't pardon people" memo they just released.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Y’all just wish you could do as good as he did on this test. Perfect scores. And a perfect mri. Y’all are just jealous of his super big brain and perfect hunk of a beautiful, in a totally manly way, 6’3” 224 lb with 5% body fat body.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Y’all are just jealous of his ~~super big brain and perfect hunk of a beautiful, in a totally manly way, 6’3” 224 lb with 5% body~~ fat body.

FTFY, and also nah lol.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

Just muscle. Slathered in diaper rash cream. Slight ting of Cheeto dust and a hamburger on his fingers. Makes Greek gods look pathetic.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

He should be Amendment 25'ed for this alone.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"They have Jasmine Crockett, a low IQ person. AOC is low IQ. You give her an IQ test, have her pass, like, the exams that I decided to take when I was at Walter Reed,' " the president said. "I took– Those are very hard– They're really aptitude tests, I guess, in a certain way, but they're cognitive tests. Let AOC go against Trump."

. . . “It's like you'll go: Person, woman, man, camera, TV," he said at the time. "So they say, ‘Could you repeat that?' So I said, ‘Yeah. So it's person, woman, man, camera, TV.’ ‘Okay, that's very good. If you get it in order, you get extra points.' "

He added, "They say nobody gets it in order, it’s actually not that easy. But for me it was easy. And that’s not an easy question."

🤡🇺🇸🔥

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I like Kimmel’s suggestion of having all of them do that test on live TV

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Strangely enough, I think Donald Trump might be the only person for which suffering Alzheimer's Disease might be a blessing. If I were Trump, I wouldn't want to remember who I was or those around me.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

That is sad in both directions. You'd think coming to and realizing you are a pathetic piece of shit should be some kind of punishment, but then you realize he would probably still get his sadistic pleasure out of remembering all the bodies he stepped on to get to where he is now.

Really that's the whole story, in that the world he lives in genuinely rewards greed and disgusting behavior, it's just that most people have some sense or realization of the shame it involves to get there, and he's just not equipped with the self reflection it takes for that shame to do anything.

he's right. for him it was a very hard test

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 5 months ago

"We are gonna kill them dead"

Trump talking about Venezuelas drug boats, 2025.